Gun Control, Mental healthcare, big brother... thread

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  1. 3RA1N1AC

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    i know when i go to a movie, i want somebody with an ak47 sitting behind me. just in case anybody starts texting.
     
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    A lot of behavior red flags for several years, but mostly only his family and neighbors and private school had contact with him, and strangers on 4chan goading him on at the end. It was one of them that suggested a school as a safer place to kill people.

    The only contact with government was getting kicked out of boot camp after only a month, maybe that was the best chance at "diagnosing" his mental problems. Haven't heard why he washed out.

    But most guys who enlist in the military do it because they have nothing else going for them as they strike out in the real world. No serious girlfriend, no plotted career course, a general feeling that they've been nurtured for 18 years only to be kicked to the curb without a guidebook or pocket change. They're perfectly sane, just socially adrift. For most, it's exactly what they need to get on track. Structure, purpose, camaraderie, training, confidence, pride.

    I think it falls on family and friends, when they have influence. But there's nowhere for them to turn for help really. Our mental healthcare is expensive and ineffective. Nobody really has a clue how to "cure" crazy people. Would counseling have sent Hitler down a different path? Doubtful.

    Crazy + anger = violence.

    The mentally ill have always been discarded or shut away and lobotomized in the past.

    But over the last 4 decades their numbers have multiplied beyond belief.

    About 36,000 Americans commit suicide each year.

    About 29,000 of those Americans commit suicide without using a firearm.

    Now there's an issue to campaign for President on, preventing 36,000 suicides each year.


    But here we are talking about guns again.
     
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    again, oregon allows suicides.

    seems like you have chosen to reside inside the belly of the beast.
     
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    imo, suicide should be legal everywhere. if you want to go, it should be your right to do so. maybe put suicide booths on the corners to cut down on the mess.
     
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    suicides are a problem, but so is people thinking they can kill other people. And those people who feel that way shouldn't be around guns, nor should we as a country get such huge boners for guns.
     
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    Pioneer in education started with orphans and mentally ill patients
     
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    I never used to avoid anyplace when I was 21, but now I avoid Disneyland and Sushi bars.

    Sooner or later theme parks will become terrorist targets. I'm surprised they aren't already. Terrorists love killing children.
    So I avoid them.

    Sushi bars sell sushi, so I avoid those too.
     
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    Traveling, it's always best to know where not to go...trust me, I've tested my theory..Yachting off the coast of Somalia...not a great idea
     
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    link?
     
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    I studied karate in my youth, and my teacher, who taught in the military in Vietnam, was quick to dispel the myth of dodging bullets and disarming an opponent 15 feet away shooting at you.

    Duck and run was his advice.
     
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    While I believe his figures are true, it's mostly a non sequitur.
     
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    the video I showed was not from 15 feet apart..they were face to face. Taking away a weapon is not dodging bullets, it's taking away a weapon
     
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    @Taylor Danforth, you might want to re-think posting here. We have these kind of circular threads allllll the time.
     
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    students without combat experience can learn from teaching advice..doesn't accomplish anything to ignore whatever they have to add...I taught my wife close up self defense the way it was taught to me...if you're taking a pee in a backalley, you don't have a lot of space. If someone robs you on an elevator, you don't have a lot of space...sure if someone is yards away and you can find cover, you stay low and run...that has nothing to do with the lesson I posted
     
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    Suicide is a choice..cowardly one from my view but I respect anyone's right to stop their movie before the ending
     
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    You sure you want to go with non sequitur?

    Didn't fare so well with false equivalences.
     
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    Wow.
     
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    actually, I fared quite well since they were false equivalences. Playing sports, tripping, getting food poisoning and the rest of the examples are not the same as someone murdering you in cold blood.

    and what does suicides #'s have to do with back ground checks? More people killed themselves WITHOUT a gun than with a gun. So, whats your point?

    I so want to take your posts seriously, but you're so obviously being a character that it's just hard to.
     

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