<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ Apr 11 2007, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>OK lets try a different approach.Will more or less people be murdered with a ban of guns?Honest answer please.</div> Yes. But it's worth it and it's our right. Less people would die if we banned fast food, but it's something people like.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ Apr 11 2007, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>OK lets try a different approach.Will more or less people be murdered with a ban of guns?Honest answer please.</div>No.Did you even read the article?It said in areas with gun control, violent crime rates skyrocketed. In areas without gun control, violent crime rates were very low.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ Apr 11 2007, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>OK lets try a different approach.Will more or less people be murdered with a ban of guns?Honest answer please.</div>Ah! less people, your average person in Australia dosen't have a gun, I rarely see gun related deaths on the news and it's a fact here that people just don't get murdered as much, I can walk across the road without worrying about getting shot. if america didn't have guns it would just make your country safer by a million times but america being america and that guns have been aloud for many years .. I don't know, it might make things worse if guns were banned, it might get people encourged to use guns more than ever. Gun Control is a problem that America needs to sort out.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Apr 11 2007, 10:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>lol you stupid dipshits, it's not a yes or no question.</div>Yeah, you know what I mean. I'm getting sleepy.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Captain @ Apr 11 2007, 08:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, you know what I mean. I'm getting sleepy.</div>And on the plus side I got the best laugh I've had in like a week. 'will more or less deaths happen?''yes''no':HAHAHA:
Your article comes from a bunch of hicks running a website who want to keep their guns.New York and Chicago and DC have more gun laws because the damn cities are crime infected regardless...that's the whole reason why they have gun laws. The gun's will not vanish unless there is a national ban on them.That article is so one-sided and slanted it's not even funny, c'mon you're smarter then that.If you think that a criminal will be more inclined to break into a house, if they know that the person inside doesn't have a gun...then fine. But they are goin in that house to steal something..the world can live and recover from that...and the law can handle that. If you both have guns and he does this, likely one of you are going to die..what good comes from that?A lot of times people kill people when they get pissed off. When the fire inside of them burns them too. We've all wanted to kill somebody..but we dont because we know it's not alright. But if you got a gun in your dashboard it's that much easier to do it. If you gotta call around 10 people, wait a few days, hand over $1000 for it..and whatever..even IF(big if) he's lucky enough to get a gun, chances are the dude is probably gonna chill out after that and hopefully change his mind.Even so the gun will be that much easier to track down. Gun resources won't be many. They could eliminate them quickly. Make stuff penaltys. People will think twice.And BCB, how is it worth it if more people are getting killed? What is so worth it about that? To walk around and hold it and act cool? Or to go in the middle of the woods and kill animals?
And I just want to throw in a bit on accidental shootings.The blame should not be simply placed on guns alone. It's the stupidity and recklessness of the people using them. These instances show that the possessors were not educated about the guns, which resulted in accidental shootings.I myself, learned all about guns and how to use them when I was around 4-5 years old. My dad made sure that I knew that they are dangerous and not to be used recklessly. He showed me how they worked, and even let me shoot a little bit under his guidance. This resulted in me not being curious about guns, and the guns didn't need to be locked up because I knew better.Kids don't say "Hey, let's play around with this steak knife! WEEEE!" (Well, maybe STS.) They know the knife is sharp and could hurt them. Lots of shootings happen because the gun is looked at as a toy.I personally feel that prior to purchasing a firearm, one must undergo a specific training program that will educate them about their gun. If anything, people should be wanting mandatory safes and education classes than gun removal. That's what I'm trying to say. The guns aren't the problem, it's the people who buy them and use them carelessly. Why should the responsible people be punished for stupidity of others?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ Apr 11 2007, 10:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Your article comes from a bunch of hicks running a website who want to keep their guns.New York and Chicago and DC have more gun laws because the damn cities are crime infected regardless...that's the whole reason why they have gun laws. The gun's will not vanish unless there is a national ban on them.That article is so one-sided and slanted it's not even funny, c'mon you're smarter then that.If you think that a criminal will be more inclined to break into a house, if they know that the person inside doesn't have a gun...then fine. But they are goin in that house to steal something..the world can live and recover from that...and the law can handle that. If you both have guns and he does this, likely one of you are going to die..what good comes from that?A lot of times people kill people when they get pissed off. When the fire inside of them burns them too. We've all wanted to kill somebody..but we dont because we know it's not alright. But if you got a gun in your dashboard it's that much easier to do it. If you gotta call around 10 people, wait a few days, hand over $1000 for it..and whatever..even IF(big if) he's lucky enough to get a gun, chances are the dude is probably gonna chill out after that and hopefully change his mind.Even so the gun will be that much easier to track down. Gun resources won't be many. They could eliminate them quickly. Make stuff penaltys. People will think twice.And BCB, how is it worth it if more people are getting killed? What is so worth it about that? To walk around and hold it and act cool? Or to go in the middle of the woods and kill animals?</div><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Jeremy D. Blanks, Ph.D.Dr. Blanks holds a Ph.D. in Inorganic Fluorine and Analytical Chemistry from the University of Alabama (1995). Currently, Dr. Blanks is a Senior Research Scientist with the DuPont Company, which is the leading R&D company in the world. His research interests include fluorinated electronic gases, sub-ppm level analyses, the destruction of perfluorinated compounds, and general fluorine / halogen related chemistry.Up until only a few short years ago, Dr. Blanks would have been characterized as a supporter of many of the gun control schemes currently being offered. However, through extensive research into the issue of gun control and the effects of such measures, he reached the conclusion that firearm ownership by law-abiding citizens saves lives and lowers the crime rate. He is now a strong supporter of self-defense rights and the 2nd Amendment. In addition to self- defense and science related topics, he is interested in politics, education, history, travel, and the Alabama Crimson Tide. Dr. Blanks is married to Dr. Jian Sun-Blanks, who is also a research scientist with DuPont. They have a three-year-old daughter, Jessica Lonnue Crimson. On a side note, Lonnue is Chinese for "daughter of the dragon" and Crimson represents Dr. Blanks' life long passion for the Alabama Crimson Tide.Dr. Blanks has published over a dozen scientific and technical papers through various journals and he has presented his work on numerous occasions at international scientific meetings. Additionally, he has published several articles on self-defense rights in a number of news outlets. He began publishing articles in the area of self-defense rights with the goal of using his background to focus a scientific light on this complicated and often misrepresented topic.Dr. Blanks has been a professional member of the American Chemistry Society for over a decade and is a life member of the National Rifle Association.</div>Sounds like a full blown hick to me.That's sad that guns are the supposed problem. People look at crime in the inner cities and say, "Hey, they are using guns. Take them away, problem solved."People need to look at the root of the problem rather than the branch. Crime will always be there like you said. Isn't that the problem that should be attacked? Not guns? People want the easy way out.The good result? Bad guy dead, good guy and his family alive.See point #1. Guy takes sword, same result. Guy takes big knife, same result. Guy beats him over with a baseball bat in the head over and over, same result.I agree with stricter penalties with gun crimes. I fully do. Punishes the criminals, keeps the law abiding citizens with guns happy.
Yeah, but aside from Dickface Cheney, how many accidental shootings have you heard of?Remember that story months ago about the guy that shot the kids for egging his car or whatever, and I said 'serves them right' and everyone ripped me? People just turn to guns for every little thing that pisses them off. Guns give them confidence. I doubt there would be as thefts since people can just threaten with a gun, they'd have to use real strength and fight off someone. A former friend of mine used an unloaded gun to threaten some people and steal their stuff once(he's in jail btw), but without guns, you're not going to break into a home as quickly. A national gun ban would reduce crime, death, and other things unseen.
And you wouldn't worry about all the ghetto kids and nerds in school capping your ass if you say something to them.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Apr 11 2007, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, but aside from Dickface Cheney, how many accidental shootings have you heard of?Remember that story months ago about the guy that shot the kids for egging his car or whatever, and I said 'serves them right' and everyone ripped me? People just turn to guns for every little thing that pisses them off. Guns give them confidence. I doubt there would be as thefts since people can just threaten with a gun, they'd have to use real strength and fight off someone. A former friend of mine used an unloaded gun to threaten some people and steal their stuff once(he's in jail btw), but without guns, you're not going to break into a home as quickly. A national gun ban would reduce crime, death, and other things unseen.</div>Lot's actually. That's a main reason If heard for gun control.No I don't actually. That guy is a dickwad. He should be thrown in jail for life. Stronger penalties.Turn to the stats. Violent crime rates are up in states and countries with gun control. In England, knives are being used so much now they are thinking of banning them too.Last post for the day. G'night all.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ Apr 11 2007, 10:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And BCB, how is it worth it if more people are getting killed? What is so worth it about that? To walk around and hold it and act cool? Or to go in the middle of the woods and kill animals?</div> You can't ban guns, so that means people will always have them. The key is, gun safety. My friends and I all know how to handle our guns. I took safety classes, I'm in a firearms class, I use it because next year I'm going to need it for my job. I know it's for my job, but I think everyone should have the right to own a firearm. You can't just play parent and go, 'well, guns kill people so people shouldn't have them'....it's just like anything, you have to know what your doing....like some people can't drive and they kill people being stupid. It's unfortunant but it's a part of life. You shouldn't take guns away because a small percentage of people abuse them. I don't blame people for wanting to have guns, people like Timothy McVeigh who thought it was hypocritical for the government to be taking away peoples gun rights....some people may call it radical but I see their point. People should be able to protect themselves.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Apr 11 2007, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The guy from Australia said there's less crime and deaths because of their gun laws...</div> Honestly, Australia doesn't have many poor minorites or slums. That's why they have low murder rates. I've been to all of Australia's major cities and it's nothing like the big cities here, comparing Australia and the United states is like apples/oranges.
Yeah, that's just England. If they're forced to use knives, then that at least gives the victim a chance to fight back. Just blowing them away from 20 is not only dishonorable, but it's cowardly too.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Captain @ Apr 11 2007, 11:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Turn to the stats. Violent crime rates are up in states and countries with gun control.</div>Quit saying that it's not true. The violent cities have gun control laws. Gun control laws didn;t make the violent cities..christ.I'm not concerned with crime. Crime will happen regardless. Killing people with a gun will not happen regardless. Your packing "soft crime" into this ban on guns.I want to ban guns to save lives...not reduce the amount of robberys ETC(though it will)...so any point in that matter should be put to rest.A gun ban will save lives. less people will die.That is enough for me.
But you can't ban guns....guns are such a huge part of this countries history, it will never happen, there are too many guns out there, they are too profitable....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Apr 11 2007, 11:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You can't ban guns, so that means people will always have them. The key is, gun safety. My friends and I all know how to handle our guns. I took safety classes, I'm in a firearms class, I use it because next year I'm going to need it for my job. I know it's for my job, but I think everyone should have the right to own a firearm. You can't just play parent and go, 'well, guns kill people so people shouldn't have them'....it's just like anything, you have to know what your doing....like some people can't drive and they kill people being stupid. It's unfortunant but it's a part of life. You shouldn't take guns away because a small percentage of people abuse them. I don't blame people for wanting to have guns, people like Timothy McVeigh who thought it was hypocritical for the government to be taking away peoples gun rights....some people may call it radical but I see their point. People should be able to protect themselves.</div>Does that mean countrys should have weapons of mass destruction too? Since we can't play parent and what not. It is their right isn't it!? I mean killing people with say a touch of a button, or say a pull of a trigger...not much of a difference IMO. Only a select few will abuse it!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ Apr 11 2007, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Does that mean countrys should have weapons of mass destruction too? Since we can't play parent and what not. It is their right isn't it!? I mean killing people with say a touch of a button, or say a pull of a trigger...not much of a difference IMO. Only a select few will abuse it!</div> Yes, countries should have any kind of weaponry they please. I believe every country on the planet has some form of weapon of mass destruction already, but don't quote me.
