Harkless resolves after Crabbe decision?

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  1. KeepOnRollin

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    Agree. Wouldn't want to go this route. But there must be a difference of opinion on what we want to pay him vs what he or his agent wants.
     
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    Neil properly had offer him a contract but Harkless most likely seeing if someone offer him more.
     
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    I don't think that guys who sign QO get their PT cut, in general.
     
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    Guys who play behind a new FA acquisition do, though... I don't there was causality implied between his PT and the QO.
     
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    The player might have a legit grievance if not given a fair shake. He's playing for a contract, the team can't deliberately lower his value.
     
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    As much as I like Harkless and want him to stay, right now he is a part time role player. And that role is defense and hustle plays on offense.

    Now if his 3 point shot continues to get better.......then his 3 & D status increases, and his value will sky rocket IMO. I don't think he needs huge minutes for that to be demonstrated. Scouts will know.......
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    What does the assistant coach have to do with it? Sincere question...
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    Why?
     
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    Vaughn was Hark's coach in Orlando, when he went from a promising rookie to an end of the bench DNP.......
     
    UncleCliffy'sDaddy, Jul 19, 2016
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    Why hasn't another team offered him an offer sheet, hes at the top of the list now at this stage in free agency...as the days go on and he is not signed part of me worries, but another part of me knows that if he were going elsewhere it would have happened already...I was expecting the Heat and Nets to make offers
     
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    I would not assume that. He hasn't signed the QQ so he could want to stay here longterm and is waiting for a better offer from Olshey.
     
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    Not surprising, seems Neil gave an offer and is sticking to it, and sooner or later Mo will take it
     
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    Who's to decide if he's been "given a fair shake" though? The team can do what's best for the team. If Turner and Crabbe are better options, then what basis would Harkless have for a "grievance"?
     
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    The legal courts or arbitration.

    Plus if the player doesn't warrant playing time, why pay him at all?
     
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    The coach can play whomever he wants. If the team decides it's not worth giving minutes to a guy that is likely to leave at the end of the year because they have a stacked roster and other players they would rather develop, I doubt any court is going to get involved. There aren't any minute stipulations in contracts. He can't say that they promised him playing time. If he takes the QO that's his problem.
     
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    Potential? Insurance against injury? Because he's better than other options for that roster spot? Plenty of reasons to pay a player but not necessarily be obligated to play him 20 mpg.

    Honestly Denny, when has an NBA player ever filed a grievance with a court over a lack of playing time? You think Harkless is going to be some kind of pioneer for 10th men? ("Why not? He is a Trail Blazer!!") This premise is absolutely ridiculous. "The coach cost me money by not playing me, so I'm going to sue!!" Child please...
     
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    Sure. You are right.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/16/sports/basketball/16dribble.html?_r=0

    The National Basketball Players Association recently filed a grievance on behalf of Tinsley, who was effectively exiled this season by the Pacers.

    “I have some problems with it,” Billy Hunter, the union’s executive director, said Saturday night during his joint press conference with Commissioner David Stern at All-Star weekend. “We think that it may be a developing problem or issue.”
     
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    Jamal Tinsley. See above :)
     
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    That's from 2009. What was the outcome?
     
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