Harrington appears headed elsewhere (not Indiana)

According to two league sources, the Warriors have revived discussions with three teams on a multiple-player swap, with the principal parts involving Mike Dunleavy Jr. going to the Clippers, Corey Maggette to Denver and Joe Smith to Atlanta, with the Warriors getting Harrington.

Though it would be a thorny transaction to meet salary-cap requirements, Tellem represents both Harrington and Dunleavy. A similar multi-team deal was discussed in Las Vegas during the summer league, according to one of the sources.

Another potential snag, however, appears to be the status of Clippers coach Mike Dunleavy Sr., a main proponent of the team's interest in Dunleavy Jr.. The coach is entering the final year of his contract and would like an extension after guiding his team to the Western Conference semifinals.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...SPGRBKM7S61.DTL

This is the only Harrington trade I have seen so far that I would do and only if Mully signed him to the contract Indiana offered. At least Dunn could go somewhere else, probably avg 15-5-5, and not get bashed for it. I just don't think its possible because of his BYC status and I belived Joe Smith might have a trade restriction. Kwan can you help me out.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting wtwalker77:</div><div class="quote_post">The only Harrington trade I'd be ok with the Warriors making is Harrington for Dunleavy (and possibly Pietrus).

Any trade that has Dunleavy and Harrington on the same roster is just really stupid. First of all, like I've said before, I don't think Harrington will benefit the Warriors at all, since his main attribute is scoring and he's not going to be doing nearly as much of that with Baron and Jason on the roster. And on top of it, the Warriors would still need to add a post scorer, which would give Harrington even less touches.
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Let's see....

"According to two league sources, the Warriors have revived discussions with three teams on a multiple-player swap, with the principal parts involving Mike Dunleavy Jr. going to the Clippers, Corey Maggette to Denver and Joe Smith to Atlanta, with the Warriors getting Harrington.

Though it would be a thorny transaction to meet salary-cap requirements, Tellem represents both Harrington and Dunleavy. A similar multi-team deal was discussed in Las Vegas during the summer league, according to one of the sources.

Another potential snag, however, appears to be the status of Clippers coach Mike Dunleavy Sr., a main proponent of the team's interest in Dunleavy Jr.. The coach is entering the final year of his contract and would like an extension after guiding his team to the Western Conference semifinals."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...SPGRBKM7S61.DTL

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting upsidedownside7:</div><div class="quote_post">Let's see....

"According to two league sources, the Warriors have revived discussions with three teams on a multiple-player swap, with the principal parts involving Mike Dunleavy Jr. going to the Clippers, Corey Maggette to Denver and Joe Smith to Atlanta, with the Warriors getting Harrington.

Though it would be a thorny transaction to meet salary-cap requirements, Tellem represents both Harrington and Dunleavy. A similar multi-team deal was discussed in Las Vegas during the summer league, according to one of the sources.

Another potential snag, however, appears to be the status of Clippers coach Mike Dunleavy Sr., a main proponent of the team's interest in Dunleavy Jr.. The coach is entering the final year of his contract and would like an extension after guiding his team to the Western Conference semifinals."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...SPGRBKM7S61.DTL</div>


This is the only way a deal for Harrington made any sense to me. Murph for Al would be totally stupid on a number of levels, and I just couldn't figure any other way for it to pass the sanity test.. But isn't mdj a byc guy this year? And if so, how could this deal possibly work?

 

If the Clippers wanted to give up Magettee and get Dunleavy, I don't see what it would have to do with Harrington. Who the hell would rather have Harrington than Magettee? Just cut Atlanta out of the deal and let the Clips and GS make a clean swap. That would be awesome!

 

Yeah, it sounds fishy. The article says:

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">According to two league sources, the Warriors have revived discussions with three teams on a multiple-player swap,</div>

But what does that mean? Crap, I could be a league source for what that's worth. When an article doesn't actually cite its source, it's usually because they don't know the source. I'm sure Janny Hu would much rather say "according to Clippers vice president of basketball operations Elgin Baylor..." but the best should come up with is "two league sources." I've never liked that. Now, "unknown sources," or "sources unknown to me," that's more credible.

 

Anything that ships out Dunleavy is a beautiful stroke of genius in my book, hurry up and get it done Mully, before they come to their senses.

On a site note regarding that article, why the hell is JRich waiting until now to have this knee surgery? I don't like the sound of that at all. Apparently he and the team knew about the problems last season (as he sat for a bunch of games) but waits until the end of August tot have the surgery done? Wouldn't June have made more sense?

 

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On a site note regarding that article, why the hell is JRich waiting until now to have this knee surgery? I don't like the sound of that at all. Apparently he and the team knew about the problems last season (as he sat for a bunch of games) but waits until the end of August tot have the surgery done? Wouldn't June have made more sense?</div>

it's just cleanup, nothing serious. He'll be back to normal in no time.

 

Well he played in 75 games so it's not like he was inured all season or anything. 75 in this day and age is ironman. But I agree with your question about the timing of the surgery. If he needed it done, why not do it the day after the season ended?

 

Sometimes rest is enough. After the wear and tear and pushing a little to train, it probably filled up a little with fluid, and they just went in and cleaned it up. (Usually why they wait for awhile, just to see if a little cortizone is enough to clean it up on its own).

 

As long as Jrich doesn't have any scar tissue or bone rubbing on bone like some of these older players do.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Four-Team Trade In The Works?
Aug 21 - Two league sources have informed the San Francisco Chronicle that the Warriors have revived discussions with three teams to acquire Al Harrington. According to the newspaper, the principal parts involve Mike Dunleavy Jr. going to the Clippers, Corey Maggette to Denver and Joe Smith to Atlanta, with the Warriors getting Harrington. </div>

I don't get it...atlanta was allegedly going to get a 7.5 mil trade exception and a first and now they might settle for Joe Smith?? Hard to believe, but anything's possible with the Hawks I guess.....

 

This is why it's hard to post when there's so much media speculation and how wild their trade scenarios get. Some of it doesn't make sense... then again neither did Isiah when he drafted Bulkman in the first round. Or just look at the Hawks and how they kept drafting swingmen or combo forwards and totally ignored center and point guard positions (the more important positions). They also sacrificed a lot for Joe Johnson. He's a great complimentary player capable of being an all-star, but he's not a true franchise guy. He's probably equivalent to Jason Richardson, only more of a true shooting guard because of passing and ballhandling. JJ just ain't that athletic for a intended franchise swing guy, but he's decently quick and he's a good decision-maker with a high basketball I.Q. and all-around talent. Still the Hawks paid more for him than we did Jrich... Ouch! It's not like Joe Johnson is a prolific shooter like Mullin or Larry Bird.

 

Just ran the MDJ/Magette though realGM and it was a no go.

 

Yeah, what's up with that? I mean the team MDJ goes to has to eat his contract and that means a team with actual cap space like the Hawks. Also we have to take a certain % amount of salary back because Dunleavy is BYC1.

 

Is it possible that an appropriately re-signed Pietrus (sent to the hawks as part of the multi-team deal) would cover the BYC1 rule? RealGMs' text on this was a hair vague. I'm still not excited about taking on harrington for 5-6 years at 11mil/year given that he's proven to be a solid (but nothing special) player at a position brimming with talent. Maggette is more interesting in some respects, but his injury history gives me the wilies.

Above all that, I'd far prefer to use pietrus to help dump foyle if at all possible.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting DTKennedy:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't get it...atlanta was allegedly going to get a 7.5 mil trade exception and a first and now they might settle for Joe Smith?? Hard to believe, but anything's possible with the Hawks I guess.....</div>If I'm correct, Joe's contract is more than the $7.5mil that they'd be getting from the exception. You also have to realize that Harrington has to accept the $7.5mil as his initial year salary, and if that doesn't go down, the trade doesn't. So, he could have said no to that and been holding out for more cash, which a Joe Smith trade would accomodate.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Moo2K4:</div><div class="quote_post">If I'm correct, Joe's contract is more than the $7.5mil that they'd be getting from the exception. You also have to realize that Harrington has to accept the $7.5mil as his initial year salary, and if that doesn't go down, the trade doesn't. So, he could have said no to that and been holding out for more cash, which a Joe Smith trade would accomodate.</div>

What happens ih he just keeps holding out? What is Harrington's contract status? Why is he in a position to "hold out" of anything, and what's the worse case scenario -- that he doesn't get traded? If that happens, does he play for Atlanta again, or does he just "walk?" I don't get why he has the leverage here.

 

ESPN is reporting that Harrington to the Pacers is a done deal. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2557921

In the end, i'd say it's for the best for the Ws...11 mil per for an average starting SF?? Pass.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting DTKennedy:</div><div class="quote_post">
In the end, i'd say it's for the best for the Ws...11 mil per for an average starting SF?? Pass.</div>

Dude... we pay 9 mil per for an AWFUL starting SF.