Harrison Dang Diddily Do Damn Diddily Darn Barnes

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  1. The_Lillard_King

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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    Maybe, but it kept getting described as a big and a small and not as the picks were because of BPA . . . at least to me
     
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    I honestly can't remember which one. I know for a fact though that it was either his presser or interview afterwards with MB and Wheels
     
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  3. The_Lillard_King

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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    Alright here I am again in teh same debate as last night. A link to his original interview should clear up what he said (he also said Blazers are not rebuilding they are retooling and Kaleb was his guy . . . as I remember).

    Maybe a lot of this is my frustration because I believed what he was saying and as Nik points out that might not have been the wisest choice.

    Olshey obviuosly knows more about these players than I do and his reputation is at stake, so I will trust he made the right decision and improved the club. I'm just not going to believe much of what he says from here on out . . . until I trust what he is saying again. :)
     
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    Who was better that was available? I just felt like everyone else remaining at #11 was fairly equal to Leonard in terms of talent and potential. So, if all things are equal, why not go with the height? It's something we need.

    I mean.... if a PF and C are available, and they're fairly equal, respectively...... If you have a PF already, you lean for the C, and vice versa if you already have a C.
     
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    I don't know who is better which is why I said I'll just wait to see how it plays out.

    I was responding to your post that you had no reason to believe anything other than BPA. Maybe it was BPA . . . I just find it odd that the whole world knew we would come out of the draft with a PG and a center.

    I get it, apparently my suspicions are wrong according to this board.
     
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    All I know is that the question was proposed here several times over the last couple days, "if Barnes slips do we take him over Lillard?" And not one person responded.
     
    HailBlazers, Jun 29, 2012
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    I don't think your suspicions are right or wrong...it's unknown. But he espoused the right philosophy, from what I can tell, and he made no overtly terrible picks (based on mainstream evaluations) so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until he reveals himself to be wrongheaded (which could certainly happen). That's my position, essentially.
     
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    I kinda expected it. But I don't think it was set in stone. I just think, more than anything, that's how the draft played out, in large part due to the level of talent out there at the respective picks.

    For the record.... I don't think you're wrong. I just think you should keep an open mind on this.

    But let's not pretend we're shocked by this draft. In MZ's "cash in your chips" thread, there were A LOT of people predicting we'd pick Lillard and Leonard. I think we had identified who we felt would be available and who we wanted, and we didn't hide it very well.
     
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    Interesting observation.

    When that question was asked regarding MKG, Beal, and Robinson, people didn't hesitate to answer and say you draft these guys ahead of Lillard, though.

    Maybe it's an indication that Barnes is in a lower tier than the three players listed above.
     
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    Danm it, like I have time for this. I did not find a link to the intro interview. I found a thread about it (below) and I found a thread about the interview with Radio guys (below) where Tone tries to tell Olshey that we need a PG and center from the draft and Olshey doesn't agree (below). Just trying to figure out if I'm more nuts than I already am . . .


    It seems like point guard and center are the two positions that need to be addressed. Is there a mechanism in place allows you to look at who's available and what position you want to start looking at first, or is that dictated by what is available when you draft?

    Well look, it's cliche but it is best player available. I think that the point that this organization is at right now is an asset acquisition phase 'Tone. We've got to rebuild our assets and at that point, either guys are going to make your team and contribute because they were drafted or you're going to be able to use those assets to generate a deal to bring players in from the outside from other organizations to rebuild the roster. But I think the roster is a work in progress at this point. I think we've got a lot of raw materials and we do have some building blocks with guys like Wes (Matthews) and Nic (Batum) and LaMarcus (Aldridge) and some young players who are yet to develop to their potential yet, and we're going to get in the gym and work with them. But, you know, I think everyone has to look at the draft as a player acquisition vehicle and the more assets you can acquire in this league, the more flexibility you have to build the roster and accelerate the growth to become more successful quicker. We were on one path with the Los Angeles Clippers a year ago, building through the draft, building with youth and when an opportunity came in to go after a franchise-level player, we had the assets to do it. So that's really what the draft is about. It's not about filling needs.

    http://sportstwo.com/threads/215185-Olshey-on-Courtside

    http://sportstwo.com/threads/214787-Live-coverage-of-the-Neil-Olshey-press-conference

    I also remember EdO questioning the philosophy wondering if you could really discount age (didn't quesion not factoring in position, but used a quote saying that). .. thought there was a thread on this but can't find it. Ed I know we don't always agree, but help a brother out. :)
     
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    Hey here's another dose of optimisim from me. Lillard being lightly recruited coming out of high-school and then humbled by only getting offers from small schools looks to have avoided the poisonous AAU mentality that seems to affect so many prospects these days ... No guarantee of NBA talent, but he'll probably be more inclined to work, and hopefully care more about winning more than stats.

    Hope, hope, hope.
     
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    Character, Character, Character. All three of our picks have it.
     
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    Agree and Olshey did say that was a factor in the BPA analysis.
     
    The_Lillard_King, Jun 29, 2012
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    We'll see how Lillard's game translates. But I am excited to watch him and LA on the pick-and-roll. Both players are strong off the p-n-r, so this could be quite the thing to watch for.
     
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    Now we just need to get LaMarcus to start setting good picks ...
     
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    I wish Robinson had fallen to us and nobody on this board would be complaining about anything. Although there always seems to be something to complain about in all aspects of life, so I'm sure there would still be doubters.
     
    SheedSoNasty, Jun 29, 2012
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    A carcinoma walks into a bar with a priest and and a lunchlady...


    Ah, never mind, not a laughing matter.
     
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    Thanks for sharing. I really admire that he wants to be here and how his story has unfolded. I wish him well and hope that we have finally found our point guard. I definitely have higher hopes than I did for Nolan.
     
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    I'd be complaining about using the 6th pick to draft the 2nd-best PF on the roster.
     
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