Free Agent Harry Giles to Portland

[Scalma]

If I had to bet on one player who isn’t on the team by the the season, it would be Zach.

If I had to bet on any move it would be a trade for Aldridge with Collins as a primary piece.

 

[blazerkor]

I think some dumb team will throw major money his way if he's efficient and healthy enough throughout the season.

So the MLE is the best we can offer? i'm too lazy to go through CBA nonsense...

Without some kind of trade we are above the cap even if we lost Gary, Hoodie (that would be our decision), Zach, DJJ, Melo, Enes, Giles and Blevins. If DJJ opted in, we retained Hoodie, re-signed Gary for lets say 18 million and Zach for around 9 million. We would be at around 140 million which is already like 4 million over the luxury tax and then have to fill out the rest of the roster. We could then still use the tax payer's MLE. That's all if the league raises the cap by the minimum which given the current situation is very very likely.

 

[blazerkor]

If I had to bet on any move it would be a trade for Aldridge with Collins as a primary piece.

Yikes, who are we gonna give up to make the salaries match? That's 18.5 million more that has to go out because we are hard capped so we don't get the extra 25% wiggle room, so it has to at least match LMA's 24 million.

 

[wizenheimer]

So the MLE is the best we can offer? i'm too lazy to go through CBA nonsense...

that's correct

 

[wizenheimer]

Yikes, who are we gonna give up to make the salaries match? That's 18.5 million more that has to go out because we are hard capped so we don't get the extra 25% wiggle room, so it has to at least match LMA's 24 million.

pretty sure at that level of salary exchange the maximum differential is 5M rather than 25%. Probably not a lot of difference

wouldn't matter either because I can't see Portland going into the tax to add Aldridge. And you're right...matching salaries would be a nightmare

 

[RoseCityRebel]

It's not a two-year contract, it's a one-year contract with a 2nd year team option thatll get declined. Also, the only reason the gave him that much is to help them trade-wise as he'd amount to more outgoing salary making it easier to match salary in a trade. Also likely that theres a handshake agreement that they'd pay Meyers extra if he decided to waive his NTC no matter what.

They essentially overpaid him to increase they're trade flexibility. The initial contract we gave him hurt our flexibility. Big difference.

Why not give DJJ that contract? He’d be a better trade asset than Meyers.

 

[RoseCityRebel]

If I had to bet on any move it would be a trade for Aldridge with Collins as a primary piece.

Whose contract are you trading to come even close to matching Aldridge’s? Zach’s rookie deal isn’t close to matching it.

 

[BonesJones]

Why not give DJJ that contract? He’d be a better trade asset than Meyers.

Why not give DJJ what contract, a 2-year contract with a team option instead of a player option, or a more expensive contract...?

Meyers isn't so much of an asset but more of a piece that could help facilitate the trade.

 

[Big Dog]

Why not give DJJ what contract, a 2-year contract with a team option instead of a player option, or a more expensive contract...?

Meyers isn't so much of an asset but more of a piece that could help facilitate the trade.

Depends on what or if they can trade him for anything of value. It could still end up biting Miami in the ass and cost them 10 mil for Leonard to sit on the bench and wave his towel for a year.

 

[illmatic99]

If I had to bet on one player who isn’t on the team by the end of the season, it would be Zach.

Thinking he gets moved in some sort of ancillary deal for a former first rounder making similar money with an extra yr or two on his deal.

 

[BonesJones]

Depends on what or if they can trade him for anything of value. It could still end up biting Miami in the ass and cost them 10 mil for Leonard to sit on the bench and wave his towel for a year.

Wouldnt bite them in the ass from a flexibility standpoint, it helps them. Only hit is in the pocketbook.

 

[Big Dog]

Wouldnt bite them in the ass from a flexibility standpoint, it helps them. Only hit is in the pocketbook.

I look at it similar to a 10 mil trade exception. A nice perk on paper, but often goes unused and ends up worthless.

 

[GDiama]

I look at it similar to a 10 mil trade exception. A nice perk on paper, but often goes unused and ends up worthless.

yeah but it's good to have the option to use it at least. Both Meyers and Dragic will get their team options declined next offseason.

 

[Big Dog]

yeah but it's good to have the option to use it at least. Both Meyers and Dragic will get their team options declined next offseason.

That's why I mentioned it's a nice perk, but unless it is used and a good deal for Miami then .............

 

[wizenheimer]

Thinking he gets moved in some sort of ancillary deal for a former first rounder making similar money with an extra yr or two on his deal.

there's certainly precedent for that: same situation when Olshey was looking to trade Plumlee because of his impending RFA status and Portland's cap & tax issues. The fact that Olshey lucked into Nurkic in that deal probably adds a little incentive. Maybe he can do something similar again

but it took Olshey 7 years to finally 'give up' on Meyers and he may have as much affection for Zach as Meyers. Not sure he's ready to give up on Zach, especially considering he paid a much higher price for Zach than he paid for Plumlee

the other side of that equation is that Olshey had Paul Allen backing his plays in the Plumlee time frame. That's not the case anymore so cap & tax consideration are probably a higher priority now, especially considering Portland is teetering on the edge of repeater tax

 

[Mr. Robot]

harry giles played two games with the blazers (in the preseason against his former team) and people want to resign him and on top of that, theyre not sure if the blazers will be able to do so

lol, get real folks... giles wont get much playing time and theres a reason why kings let him go and i wouldnt be sure injuries are the only reason

where do you see him getting playing time, instead of who... he wont play over djj or carmelo at the four nor kanter at the five

 

[SharpesTriumph]

If I had to bet on any move it would be a trade for Aldridge with Collins as a primary piece.

No realistic way to make salaries match.

No role for him either.

Only way I see Blazers adding LaMarcus is if there are multiple injuries and he gets bought out.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Blazers can give Giles the MLE, or tax MLE.

If he deserves more then I'll enjoy the awesome year we had, tip my cap to him.

The disadvantage of not having guys locked up long term is we can lose them in free agency.

The upside is we don't have long term contracts hurting the team.

 

[GDiama]

harry giles played two games with the blazers (in the preseason against his former team) and people want to resign him and on top of that, theyre not sure if the blazers will be able to do so

lol, get real folks... giles wont get much playing time and theres a reason why kings let him go and i wouldnt be sure injuries are the only reason

where do you see him getting playing time, instead of who... he wont play over djj or carmelo at the four nor kanter at the five

The Kings have been incredibly bad at evaluating talent so i cannot imagine there was a real reason they didn't at least pick up his option. They did this before last season so they basically judged him based on his first year of playing in the league.

 

[RoseCityRebel]

Blazers can give Giles the MLE, or tax MLE.

If he deserves more then I'll enjoy the awesome year we had, tip my cap to him.

The disadvantage of not having guys locked up long term is we can lose them in free agency.

The upside is we don't have long term contracts hurting the team.

I want to see him in a real game as a contributor to wins and also make it through a solid stretch of no injuries before talking about the MLE for a guy who averages 34 games played and 14mpg in his 3-year career on a losing team.

 

[kjironman1]

I want to see him in a real game as a contributor to wins and also make it through a solid stretch of no injuries before talking about the MLE for a guy who averages 34 games played and 14mpg in his 3-year career on a losing team.

I'll second that!

 

[Orion Bailey]

Whats the deal with his strained calf? Does anyone know anything? Its been a couple weeks now at least. Did he tear something?
5 fouls is rest for Kanter at minimum.

 

[twobullz]

Whats the deal with his strained calf? Does anyone know anything? Its been a couple weeks now at least. Did he tear something?
5 fouls is rest for Kanter at minimum.

I haven't heard anything, but I know the Lakers are expecting Davis to miss at least 4 weeks with his calf strain, so I would assume Giles is about the same.