'Harry Potter' Actress' Brother Sentenced in Her 'Honor Beating'

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  1. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Murder and the most serious crimes aren't the issue. The crimes in the media are the top 2% of the pyramid. The 98% are smaller oversentenced crimes, the ones you don't read about. As the article says, when Republicans are in the majority, suddenly they have to stop their attack dog tactics on Democrats, and actually face up to the deficits their hatred causes.

    As for your sexist example of man hitting woman (you don't care about woman hitting man, e.g. when my psycho ex-wife broke my glasses in half unprovoked--but I would never dream of destroying her life over it with the legal system), so-called "punches" in the original post's family fight, where there were no injuries and the whole crime was a figment of a judge's imagination, have, as I said in this thread, 5% the power of a punch in a street fight. They aren't real punches unless they cause a real injury. Did you experience reality or are you an only child? With your sexism, you certainly had no sisters, and probably no brothers.

    I may have been belted all my childhood, and I may have been really angry at my father the Colonel, but I would never dream of destroying his livelihood over it, causing him (like almost all felons) to be underemployed the rest of his life, possibly living under a bridge some of that time, ineligible for social services like a place to sleep, etc. See, I was taught to love, unselfishly like Jesus, not to be full of hateful spite for some imagined abstract crime when the uninjured so-called victim is crying to the judge to stop this hateful nonsense, as in the article in the original post.

    I can be critical of religion, but there is plenty of it I like. Deficits are pulling the extremist legal system back in the direction of Christian love. Back to how it was before Republicans vastly increased prison sentences in the 1980s, flush with Reagan deficits to spend.

    And I haven't even addressed the non-criminal nonsense. I have a hearing Friday. One lawyer pulled a hundred thou out of the family inheritance. Another one who claims to represent my sister is after my brother and me for a couple hundred thousand for selling my parents' house late, after its value had dropped. We opposed their forcing us to sell, so it was sold late. He says we owe my incapacitated sister damages. She lives with me, I take care of her for free, and she opposes the whole lawsuit, but her say doesn't count. If I lose this money it will shorten my life. Supposedly she will get it, but actually her Guardian will and increase his fees with it, total expected $300K. She sees none of her inheritance. He takes $110 per hour to drive her to medical appointments and deliver her meds, minimum wage tasks. I can do that for free. She can drive and do it for free. But the asinine legal system says that I have to lose a few years of my life to enrich the unnecessary Guardian. There are so many lawyers making money off of the siblings that it's like a convention at the hearings.

    You might be surprised that the families who fight, when young, are the ones who stick together, when old, against giant evil forces. That's because we have passion for each other. If there's no negative passion, there will also be no positive passion, just bored disconnected people who don't care, which is what the legal system wants the family to be. Deficits will make this country return to good old fashioned values and silence the money-grubbers who hate human emotions and want us to be robots. Passion and human love will again be legal when we are poorer, and it's coming in our lifetimes from Republican social engineering to channel most money from the bottom 98% to the top 2%. As Charles Dickens wrote, "The law is a ass."

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  2. BrianFromWA

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    bumped for "whacky Islamic honor killings"

    http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20110222/US.Westernized.Woman.Killed/
     
  3. MARIS61

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    Read about Hitler's early years and get back to me.
     
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    I have (pretty extensively). What do you want me to teach you?
     
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    Certain kinds of "rallies and workshops" create violence in otherwise non-violent people.

    In fact, nearly all really evil leaders throughout history have had a personal magnetism that allowed them to incite people to horrific actions simply by getting them revved up in a rally.

    Religious leaders are no exception.

    Being in the military, I'm sure you've seen mob action up close and personal.

    That shit doesn't just happen. There's always some loudmouth that starts the ball rolling. Somebody has to start the fire and fan the flames.
     
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    it's actually a good point, but I'll make a distinction here...tell me what you think.

    Hitler's early rallies, (aside from the Beer Hall Putsch, which was a violent attempt at a takeover rather than a "rally") played upon fears and problems that people were going through and attributed them to various groups (the Jews, the generals who signed the Treaty of Versailles, the puppet gov't of the Weimar Republic, etc). As a manifestation he sent out the Brownshirts to attack people, burn down houses, eventually physically silencing his opposition. It wasn't the power of his oratory or the logic of his message that caused the violence in his rise to power, it was the henchmen on his payroll that were ordered to pillage, punish and intimidate. And even after he came to power in 1931, it wasn't until he'd received the emergency powers from his cronies in the Reichstag that he was able to pass the horrific laws that ended up consuming Germany.

    As far as the Uganda rallies (and to be completely honest, I know only what I've read in the links above) go, it seems as if they were much the same as those in Atlanta or various other places around the country and world. At the rallies that I'm familiar with it's not "go forth and do your Christian duty to punish gay people! They're the cause for our problems!" (continuing the Hitler parallel). And it didn't seem as if the Uganda stuff was Christian mobs patrolling the countryside looking for victims. It seemed the work of people bent on causing trouble.

    I guess a more apropos analogy would be with the WI teachers' union rally. Regardless of how you feel about the issue, I think we'd both agree that neither side is stating that the other should be harmed for their views. Yet if a protester (or 10!) show up and start bashing in windows, looting, and in general causing panic and riot (which actually can start the "mob action" you speak of) it doesn't mean that protesting and rallies cause violent acts; it's that people who break the law while doing it should be punished.
     

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