Trade Hart/Winslow/Didi/Keon/pick or CJ/Norm/Nance/Roco?

If Dame is playing at an MVP level we'll get better value in return than if we trade him right now.

Since we're working with Dame he's not likely to turn this into a Harden/Simmons situation. As long as Dame is healthy the best value we'll get for him would be by the deadline next season, IMO.

We're willing to take this as far as he wants. He'll know next season if staying and trying it here will make him happy.

 

We had to dump them urgently so that we could tank and avoid the repeater tax. I believe it's pretty well understood that this was a mandate from ownership. They were not going to pay the repeater tax.

 

Nor should they have to. There are times when owners should pay it and times when they should look to avoid it. I would say this was the time not to repeat it.

 

obviously...that's why San Antonio traded Duncan and Dallas traded Dirk before they aged out. They understood that trade value was the only value worth considering

 

It’s legit crazy to me that people talk like they know what the Blazers could have had or done but didn’t. Like they were in the room. If you weren’t in the room or know someone who was, you don’t know.

 

Stop being reasonable!!

 

You're right but there is one thing we can know. Norm and RoCo were a part of the first big trade of this past trade season and that means that all avenues could not have possibly been exhausted just because if anyone in the front office had a brain which I think they did, they knew that other trades would be made and some teams would miss out on initial trade targets. So at the very least we know that trade which most definitely didn't bring back more value than it sent out, was rushed. Cronin said that teams knew that he had to get us under the tax and that was a hindrance, yet he pulls the trigger first with people holding shit over his head that gave him a negotiating disadvantage. Not impressive.

The real thing that I can't know, that makes it hard to criticize any NBA Exec ever is if ownership forced his hand but Olshey got away with a lot of shit so if Kolde or someone did force Joe's hand it just points out again that Joe isn't a very good negotiator. He's a guy that can't manage his boss(es) which is a very important skill for anyone that directly reports to someone else, especially when Joe is supposed to be the tenured basketball exec and Vulcans have their hands in too many pies to be close to the expert he should be.

 

YOU RANG FAMS!?!

 

I think the "initial expected trade" was Portland heavy given that other teams knew we were going to trade CJ and that our ownership gave every indication that they were not interested in paying the repeater tax.

Everybody knew CJ and Norm had to be moved. And nobody was excited about those contracts.

 

I hear you but nobody manages NBA owners. Especially Joe freakin Cronin.

 

We were already out of the repeater tax when CJ was traded but I get what you're saying that we didn't exactly make people feel like we valued our guys so those people didn't have to send value back when they acquired them.

 

I do that! Only problem is I'm not sure either of those trades were on the table.

 

the TPE wasn't there either

 

Dame doesn't have what those 2 do.

 

What’s funnier is the people that somehow were able to gauge New Orleans’ level of desperation to get CJ.

 

We've got A LOT of NBA insiders on this board who have been privy to a ton of private conversations.

 

Hart was a good get. But where does he fit? I think its time to trade dame.

 

like them, he's the best player in franchise history. And like them, he's shown amazing loyalty to the team that drafted him

 

What's funny to me is that the guys defending Cronin act like they know he did as good as a GM could with those trades, they act like they know for sure that better trades weren't available and that every possible deal that would have been better was explored. None of us know shit, the only thing we know is that we gave up a lot more production than we got back and we didn't get the draft capitol back to justify the discrepancy. The reason why is fairly inconsequential to me especially when the guy who made the move is in the middle of an interview. How in the world is he not failing his interview?