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  1. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    because like everything else, we are proven innocent until found guilty. I never mentioned a weekly health questionnaire. Not sure where that came from.
    Of course, with anything in life there will be outliers.
    Its illegal to speed, but some do it and get caught. Some don't. But if your caught your insurance premiums go up.

    its called freedom of choice. One has a choice to jaywalk and possibly get caught.
    One has a choice to eat poorly and has a possibility of getting caught.
    I just think it would be easier to simply tax unhealthy things vs set cameras up everywhere to monitor behavior. And less invasive.
     
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    why do i have to move out of society? I cant i push for legislature to hold those more accountable?

    science determines bad habits. Medicine and science.
     
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    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    This has been pretty much the deal with every dental plan I have been on the past 45 years. They pay 70% of the cleaning the first year, 80% the second and so on. And yeah, it goes back to 70% when you miss a year. I took horrible care of my teeth in my younger years, but being “forced” to go to the dentist annually has paid huge dividends and saved me a lot of money. Too bad I had to be so stupid for so many years…….
     
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    So a tax on beef? Pork? How about bread? Who decides what is unhealthy?
     
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    We really need one of those essential oils idiots in this discussion.
     
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    and this is why im not for a change in funding first. Bad habits will remain. We need education on how to live healthier.
    On e we get people wanting to healthier we can then truly determine the costs of those without a choice to develop a better plan to help them.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    science and medicine. The same faith we put towards the vaccine?
     
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    I didn't say you have to. I suggested it, since that's the only way to make sure you don't pay for people to do things you don't like.

    In society you have to deal with people making choices you don't agree with. There is no removing that. Regardless of any dystopian legislation we try to pass people will still do things you don't agreed with. And you'll still have to pay for it.
     
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    Come on man. First of all. I made a comment and you quoted me on it and we have been discussing from there.
    Second im on my phone at work. Im not gonna see everything when every comment i make has three or four replies from people.

    but whatevsman. Was trying to be serious.
     
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    Right, but based on what? Nothing we eat is dangerous in moderation.
     
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    So we should just toss out hands in the air and let it go rampant? Or continue to minimize bad choices of individuals for the good of all?

    You may give up. Im not gonna.
     
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    buy one bag of chips a month no tax. Buy 19 bags a tax. Buy 30 bags? A higher tax. It would be really easier to implement a tracking system on spending.
     
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    If you want to be taken seriously then you might not dismiss the evidence I've provided several times as inaccurate.

    Get the counter evidence if you want to have that conversation. You've had several days to do so.
     
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    No, other countries do this very well. That's what I've been saying.

    Get Universal Healthcare. Stop subsidizing corn syrup. Improve access to education. Make our communities more walkable.

    This is what the happiest and healthiest countries in the world do, and you don't like that. Instead you want to punish people who don't do things you don't like.

    In fact, arguing for taxes that evidence shows we don't even need, and in fact don't work.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...05cf44-fa5f-11e9-ac8c-8eced29ca6ef_story.html
     
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    The happiest and healthiest countries are generally low population and non-diverse (mostly whites or asians usually).

    Generally agree. Universal Healthcare would be good. Less processed foods would be good.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Yes, that would be very easy, technically. And would cause every single 'freedumb' person's head to explode. The government is tracking my every move?

    We aren't even allowed to track purchases of firearms due to freedumb, what do you think the odds of tracking every purchase of every item are?

    Your proposal has zero chance of ever being implemented in this country.

    barfo
     
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    There should be a fried chicken tax.
     
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    You trying to make a thigh and a wing cost a leg and an arm?!
     
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