They don't have anything to trade back. Maxey (Harris to make it work) and crappy Draft picks. No thanks.
Your listing players like the Blazers would be trotting out a roster to win games next year. That's not the point if the Blazers trade Dame. What matters is picks and Brooklyn has way more than Miami. Not sure trade Dame or not trade Dame matters at all though if Jody is the owner. Team will suck or they'll suck. I guess would we rather lose and watch Dame or lose and watch some 20 year olds try to become stars. I flip flop on what I want. Ideally I'd want to not be disappointed with the execution of either direction. Unfortunately I'm extremely not confident that can be avoided.
Damian also said Booker is one of his favorite players. How about a 3 way deal? Phoenix sends out Ayton for goodies, then Blazers get the good rookie stuff and send Lillard packing to play with KD and Book ??
bad idea... Phoenix gave up all of their decent assets for Durant. They don't have a single 1st round pick to trade. Not one pick....they are all locked up and for some insane reason I can't figure out, I think Ayton has a lot more value in this forum than he has in any NBA front office. There won't be any decent "goodies" traded for Ayton
if Dame does ask out, then obviously, between Miami and Brooklyn the Nets could make the much more attractive offer but that offer HAS to start with one thing: NO Ben Simmons. He really seems beyond redemption at this point and he has MASSIVE negative value. It would be incredibly stupid to accept him as part of the return...unless the Nets gave Portland every 1st round pick they own without adding any protection...which they wouldn't do IMO. But again, why would Portland trade Dame AND take back one of the worst contracts in the league? and I think the only intelligent path for Portland, in the event of a Dame trade, is to tear it all down and become a truly shitty team for 2 or 3 more years and load up on high lottery picks so a trade I'd be OK with is Dame + Nurkic for Dinwiddie + Joe Harris + Claxton + 2025 Phx first + more advantageous of 2027 Phx or Philly first + the two most advantageous of the 2029 Dallas first, 2029 Phoenix 1st, and 2029 Brooklyn first. And I'd only allow the Nets to put top-4 protection on one of the first's, no more. And, a couple of 2nd's and I'd also re-route both Dinwiddie and Harris for whatever draft capital and expiring contracts are available. Even if it's for 2nd round picks, that's better than putting them on the roster I'd even look at adding and Ant for a S&T Cam Johnson and reroute Johnson to another team for a future 1st or two
Joe will make trades, we will have a better team around Dame than he's had and we will see what that team can do. Dame is for real and sometimes some people can't handle that.
That's seems pretty clear; not definitive; but consistent with his 11 year career in Portland and his strong desire to stay in Portland Dame might be advised to be cautious about the gotcha questions all the people have when they interview him
Nice I don’t know what’s best long term, but I know I’ve loved having Dame rep the pinwheel and Im ready to give up the fun, fantastic world of rooting for a rook of it means a legit shot with Dame.
If the Blazers are trading Dame they would be rebuilding, then Simmons salary matches and following year it'll be an expiring deal. Doesn't really harm the Blazers when they're rebuilding. Now it would have less trade value in subsequent moves, so the Nets yes need to give the Blazers additional pick(s). But it makes more sense to give the Blazers way overpaid Simmons, while the Nets keep more players that help them win now, while moving that additional draft compensation to Portland. Win win for both franchises. Think of it another way, if your the Blazers post Dame do you trade away first round pick(s) to upgrade from Simmons to Harris+Dinwiddle? That wouldn't make any sense. The salary filler in return for a Dame trade should be the most overpaid players possible so the Blazers get additional draft compensation, or it should be young players that can lose now while having potential to improve to an elite level long term, like Sharpe.
Some think trading Dame for Ben Simmons is a terrible idea. But that's exactly the point, Blazers need to be terrible to draft really high during a post Lillard rebuild. All the Australia fans would go nuts with Thybulle & Simmons. Portland might have to sneak in a kangaroo mascot while rebuilding without Lillard.
I don't agree at all. Simmons has massive negative value...why trade Dame for any negative value? that does not make sense to me, at all, and you won't convince me otherwise. I mean, why would you accept Simmons rather than Dinwiddie and Harris? Even if you didn't flip them to a 3rd team right away, they both have expiring contracts and could be good trade assets at the trade deadline as both are quite functional players. Simmons is none of those things
example option A) Trade for a shitty player and 4 picks Option B) Trade for an average player and 3 picks The hope in taking Simmons is that the future life’s are better. Also, Trade A, win 20 games and have best odds at a top pick 2024. Trade B, win 25 games and have the 3rd best odds. Obviously, it’s not Lear cut what the results will be, Simmons could become good again, 3rd best odds could win the draft, or the extra pick could flame out immediately. However, if the goal is to rebuild, taking on another teams mess can pay off.
If the Blazers are going super young, might as well taken on a negative contract, assuming that means you're getting more/better future assets.
