My guess is VDN told Thomas (in the huddle) to stick Marion, and for Thabo to commit the foul. Anyhow, DUNK:
I'm so mad right now at that dumbassery stuff Thabo just pulled....After that beautiful play Gordon pulled to get us RIGHT BACK in the game and then the Kirk Hinrich steal...he GIVES the ball right to DWade. We worked TOO hard not to even get the ball IN for the win.
Game Recap: WTf? So you bench Rose for Thabo because of his superior inbounding ability and great defense. Thabo promptly tosses a turnover then gets dunked on to end the game. Holy shit. Vinny, that was a rookie coaching mistake. Bulls looked downright ugly for most of this game. It wasn't till the end when Vinny let loose with the return of the '3-guard-lineup' of Rose, Hinrich, and Gordon did the Bulls finally start to look liek a professional team again. Deng has been miserable lately. Wow, what is up with him. Just when we all thought he finally has turned the corner. Tyrus didn't play great, but i thought he got screwed by the refs tonight. Wade was terrific as usual. Gordon with another huge shot. Too bad all for 'naught. Eh, sucks to go into the break with this loss. Bulls have a semi rivalry going with Spo-Vinny/Rose-Chalmers.
I don't know why VDN took so long to take BG off of Wade. Wade abused him, then the soft double team with Noah just opened things up even more. Noah and Tyrus did a pretty good job of defending the rim for the most part, but it was still a 10 point loser. It's like they're trying to prove a point almost. Deng has to be hurt again, he's been awful since the Houston game. I don't think anybody should expect Thabo to be even mediocre in 6 minutes a game and playing crunch time. Are the bulls trying to win games or evaluate talent? No BG can't guard good players. And no, you can't tell anything about Thabo in 6 minutes a game. Don't play him if you can't find 15 minutes at least. And Noc should just sit a few out if he is hurt, because other than being an instructional video for how to give a hard foul, he isn't helping things. Oh and it'd be nice if the bulls could get a few calls. BG was hit on the elbow in the first on a leaner, Tyrus should have gotten continuation on his last dunk, and Wade had a fistful of Hinrich's jersey and threw him on the play where he fumbled the ball.
Seriously, I was watching this close and Wade didn't do anything to Gordon that he didn't do to Hinrich, in spades. Wade basically scored on three plays in a row at the end, two of them beating Kirk really badly and one of them a well contested jumper over Rose. Kirk's steal toward the end was solely the result of Wade fumbling a ball he wouldn't fumble 99 times out of a hundred. And in those other 99 times, Wade simply got position and dunked it on Kirk. Again. Kirk, and I understand the desire to keep the meme going at all costs, but there's plenty of more interesting and accurate stuff to talk about with this game, IMO.
If you want to give Kirk some love (and I know people do), he absolutely should have been the recipient of <strike>Thabo's</strike> Rose's inbounds. He was wide freaking open at the top of the key and Thabo looked right at him. As I said the other day, I don't like that the Bulls run the "go to player" route instead of the "run the offense" route and this was a case where it really bit them in the ass. Even if you're running that play, a more expierienced, sharper guy would have just flung it to Kirk who had a wide open look. So yeah, a piece of coal in the stocking for Thabo, who should have made the right play, and more for Vinnie who shouldn't have put him in that position for about 600 different reasons.
It was a tie game with 4.7 seconds to go. The 5 second pressure to even get the ball inbounds basically demanded that Kirk (IMO) be the guy passing the ball inbounds. Maybe VDN was being aggressive in trying to have a taller guy (can see over the defender better) bring the ball in and to have Kirk maybe available to get the inbounds pass and shoot, but that would be a good strategy for road games (play to win) and not home games (play to tie). It's a fairly traditional play to pass the ball inbounds and then immediately pass back to the passer. I really don't get this move.
Maybe the Bulls will get the idea after watching the Heat do it. I could have lived with Rose as the inbounder too, since he would definitely draw some attention streaking to the basket if Kirk doesn't take the shot. But yeah, you have Kirk inbound and make the Heat chose between denying Gordon and denying Rose, with the possibility of an open shot for Kirk off the pass. Pretty much anything would have been better than what they did, I think.
Yeah, but Gordon was wide open in the corner. If Thabo had delivered the pass, we would have either had Gordon shooting up a wide open shot, driving to the basket for a floater, or driving to the basket, and throwing up the alley oop to Tyrus. There was nothing between Gordon and the basket, and Tyrus' man was the only guy in a position to rotate over. Passing it to Gordon was the right idea. The pass was just horrible.
Gordon was not open. There's no humanly catchable pass that Thabo could have thrown to him that wouldn't have been intercepted by Wade.
If Suns really like TT better than Beasley, maybe the right trade is for Beasley and not Amare. Beasley can score and is on a rookie deal for a long time. If we are going to talk about Hinrich, I have to bring up the guy still doesn't know how to run a damn fastbreak. Textbook for Hinrich was a 2 on 1 with Deng where he overleads Deng and Deng can't do anything with it.
Heh, nice dig But yeah, if the human on the receiving end was Shawn Bradley, we might have had a chance!
I have a picture of it with my game recap. http://dabullz.com/2009/02/12/miami-heat-95-at-chicago-bulls-93/ Ben Gordon had a ridiculous amount of space wide open. Thabo just had to do a soft lob over Wade.
And all I need to know is what numbers are going to come up in the lottery tomorrow and I have an easy payday. Well, it might have been a little easier than that.
I don't know abut wide open. In freeze frame it may seem like there was more space then there was. Either way, Thabo is not the guy you want to have to make quick, smart, or precise decisions that was were the trouble began. If you can't make the pass to Ben then you need to think fast to the wide open fucking guy we had in Kirk. It's called a back up plan and we didn't have one set up or were unable to execute it is beyond me.
