Politics HERE'S WHY TRUMP WILL SERVE 2 TERMS

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  1. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Now he and his supporters are saying he should get elected for three terms. Its funny, they were all bitching Obama was going to change the constitution and do this. But, when it's their guy well hey
     
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    Cheer up, he's going to serve two terms in Leavenworth and another two terms in Guantanamo.
     
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  4. MARIS61

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    Higher approval than Obama, and still rising.

    Trump's approval rating hits highest point of presidency, but still struggles in match-up against Dems

    By Andrew O'Reilly | Fox News

    President Trump’s approval rating has hit the highest point in his presidency, according to a new poll by the Washington Post and ABC News.

    The poll, which was released on Sunday, found that 47 percent of registered voters approve of Trump’s work inside the White House – a five point jump since April. Fifty percent of registered voters, however, still disapprove of Trump’s job in office.

    In comparison, Barack Obama’s approval rating during the same time in his first term was 46 percent, while George W. Bush’s was 61 percent, according to Gallup.

    Despite six out of 10 Americans saying that Trump has acted in ways that are unpresidential, one-fifth of those voters still approve of the job the president is doing.

    Trump’s approval rating was buoyed by the economy, with 51 percent of respondents approving of his handling of economic issues, while 42 percent disapprove.
     
  5. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Speaking of Gallup, they have Trump's approval at somewhere between 40% and 43%. Gallup's Trump disapproval is a paltry 54% LOL.
    Good grief, Fox News, really?
    Gallup pegs Obama's approval at 44% during his third year and 57% at the end of his Presidency. You think Trump will ever hit 57% approval? LOL, fat chance.
    I'd love to have a blow up of Trump's face on a poster in my living room when he gets clobbered in the next general election.
     
  6. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Trump will serve two terms.
    One will be for at least 20 years and the other will be life.
     
  7. MARIS61

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    The left is falling after failing in so many countries across the globe.

    Greek election: Conservative party regains control, ousts left-wing PM
    By Elena Becatoros, Derek Gatopoulos | Associated Press

    ATHENS, Greece –
    Conservative opposition leader Kyriakos Mitsotakis comfortably won Greece's parliamentary elections Sunday, delivering a stinging blow to leftist Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras after a tumultuous four years in office as the country struggled through a crippling financial crisis.

    With more than 90% of votes counted, Mitsotakis' New Democracy party had 39.8% of the votes, compared to 31.5% for Tsipras' left-wing Syriza party.

    The extreme right-wing Golden Dawn party, founded by neo-Nazi supporters, narrowly failed to make the 3% threshold needed to enter parliament — a huge fall of support for a party that had become the third-largest in the Greek legislature during the country's financial crisis.

    The results indicated Greek voters bucked a recent trend in Europe of citizens rejecting the political mainstream and turning to populist and euroskeptic parties.

    "I asked for a strong mandate to change Greece. You offered it generously," Mitsotakis said in his victory speech. "From today, a difficult but beautiful fight begins."

    Mitsotakis. 51, vowed to abide by his campaign pledges to cut taxes, attract investment and improve the job market. He had been ahead in opinion polls for three years and managed to build a sizeable lead.

    "Greeks deserve better and the time has come for us to prove it," he said.

    Mitsotakis was scheduled to be officially sworn in as prime minister Monday, and was expected to announce his Cabinet later in the day.

    Tsipras conceded defeat and phoned Mitsotakis to congratulate him.

    "The citizens have made their choice. We fully respect the popular vote," Tsipras said in a speech from central Athens.

    He said his party now would work to protect the rights of working Greeks as "a responsible but dynamic opposition" to the government.

    Tsipras said he hoped New Democracy's return to government "will not lead to vengeance ... particularly toward the significant achievements to protect the social majority and the workers."

    The election was the first since Greece emerged from three international bailouts that were dependent on successive governments implementing strict austerity measures, including major tax hikes and spending cuts. The financial crisis saw unemployment and poverty levels skyrocket and the economy shrink by a quarter.

    Mitsotakis, the son of a former prime minister, brother of a former foreign minister and uncle to a newly elected mayor of Athens, fought during the campaign to shed the image of family privilege.

    He pledged to make Greece more business-friendly, attract foreign investment, to modernize the country's notorious bureaucracy and to cut taxes.

    Tsipras, 44, called the election three months ahead of schedule after Syriza suffered a severe defeat in European Union and local elections in May and early June.

    He had led his small Coalition of the Radical Left, or Syriza, party to power in 2015 on promises to repeal the austerity of Greece's first two bailouts. But after months of tough negotiations with international creditors that saw Greece nearly crash out of the European Union's joint currency, he was forced to change tack and sign up to a third bailout that imposed spending cuts and tax hikes.

    He also cemented a deal with neighboring North Macedonia under which that country changed its name from plain "Macedonia." Although praised by Western allies, the deal angered many Greeks, who consider use of the term by their neighbor to harbor expansionist aims on the Greek province of the same name.
     
  8. Lanny

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    This must be correlated to Trump since the Greeks really know how to increase the debt astronomically.
     
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    I hope the dem's don't forget to address these issues, "He pledged to make Greece more business-friendly, attract foreign investment, to modernize the country's notorious bureaucracy and to cut taxes".
     
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    We're talking PRISON terms, right?
     
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  11. Lanny

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    He can't cut taxes. The country stills owes a monumental amount of money.
     
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    Thats the problem with socialist government that gets out of hand, and forgets about business and makes it tough on them. Teach a man to fish/feed himself&fam, work, and he will sustain, prosper and feel good about himself.
    Lanny, I'm a moderate that has some liberal and conservative views/beliefs, but Im not for democratic socialism. I know the argument about medicare but I worked my ass off as did the generation before me and payed into it for years. I understand we need to serve the poor and needy, but as a society we need for people to step up and work hard and innovate to create business and opportunities.
    Im old fashion I guess my father always taught us and I my kids that working hard, setting goals in life and learning to persevere when things look bleak will build fortitude, grit and create opportunities to succeed at whatever.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Yeah, that's exactly the way "socialism" works. I take it if it didn't exist already, if you hadn't paid into it, you'd be against it? It's a bad program, but you feel invested in it, so you want to keep it?

    Do you see a lack of innovation in this country? I don't.

    Keeping poor people from starving or becoming homeless or not getting healthcare is not going to keep you from pursuing whatever opportunities you want to pursue. The social safety net that exists today didn't make you a 'welfare queen', and expanding it a bit won't make your kids or grandkids welfare queens.

    barfo
     
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    So you prefer a larger government run less business/Capitalistic, driven country, versus a smaller government with some support for those in legit need, and a adequate armed forces?
    This country has prospered because of innovation and opportunity.
    Im all for support for the starving and homeless as you put and definitely against creating a welfare state. You know Ive also endorsed balance that can be effective and efficient.
    Im not endorsing what Bernie and others pro big government candidates regardless of party. Is that your preference?
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    It's not either-or. We can and do have both already.

    I'm not particularly a fan of Bernie, but more because I don't think he's credible in terms of actually implementing anything he wants to do, rather than because of his goals. Talk about a revolution, well, you know, we all want to change the world... but our system requires incremental change.

    There are things that we all agree the government should do, rather than private industry. Fire, police, military, etc. We can talk about whether healthcare should become one of those things without claiming that it would destroy capitalism. It would not.

    barfo
     
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    Barfo, I respect your opinions and enjoy you since of humor, but Im interested inhere you stand on some of the key issues. The following are where I stand for this point in time, who nows maybe I will change some as I approach 80?

    Government Size - small more effective gove. More capitalistic and free enterprise than bigger gov
    Thanks, I agree completely!
     
  17. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    I hope working hard is not old fashioned. I was taught from about 12 years old and up that I should do $1.10 worth of work for every dollar earned. I tried to live up to that as well as work a ton and a half of overtime. I always finished my task and went to the boss and said, "okay, that's done, what else do you need me to do". I even worked hard doing my yard work. I always enjoyed learning everything about my job and passing that along to whatever new guys that got hired to do similar work. This is NOT old fashioned.
    I feel that medical care should be a human right and easy to use. This means that we are going to have to transition toward some sort of free medical care with people willing to pay extra for extra medical care. I had no medical care when I was younger than 19 and whenever my parents had little money which was most of the time. I seldom got to see the dentist unless he was pulling a tooth. No orthodontics, even though I needed it, until I paid out of my own pocket when I was in my late 30s. Except for polio vaccine, which was free, I can't remember getting any shots until I went in the Army.
    Some kids are from poor families that are above the poverty level and not eligible for Medicaid yet deserve medical care. Some adults are not capable of handling all the red tape associated with medical care. No, medical care must be free and easy to use.
    Other things ought to be free such as a place to call home. You can buy a nice home like I did by staying in school, working hard in school and working hard in your job or you can live in adequate but not luxurious housing provided by the government. No one should be sleeping on a sidewalk or under a bridge.
    And then there's food. No one should have to eat cat food. You can do like I do and grill something like a wagyu steak or go to a nice restaurant or you can eat a nutritious but not very appetizing meal at a government soup kitchen.
    Is this socialism? Not entirely. I consider it a floor. You want something better? Go out and get it.
    I grew up a little boy from a poor family, there were times when we skipped dinner and breakfast was the same thing day after day after day, oatmeal. When people said breakfast, I thought they meant oatmeal. Often times dinner meant cornbread and milk. Not a good life for a little boy.
     
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    I grew up in the same era as you and for some time we were poor also and went up to the county clinic on the clinic on the hill. When my pop went fro0m deck handing to piloting a tug we then then started to prosper with as home and such. But like in all things he sacrificed much time away from home in order to provide the basics.
    Im all for government assistance and its always been there, but like anything it needs to be managed properly. I remember and I think it still goes that there were those that played the welfare system that were able to work and there was no incentive fro them too. Intact the more kids a gal had the more income she received, not a great incentive imo. Then if a working boyfriend that lived in the household that income that income was never reported. Ive know many people that worked the system for food stamps and they were able to work, but didn't desire to. There just meeds to be better checks and balances.

    The problem with huge government, they get so departmentalized and only look to justify their existence rather than be fiscally responsible. The bureaucracy gets out of hand with now checks and balances.
    Im a fiscal conservative and manage my finances as such out of responsibility and freedom. Im very liberal with other issues but not totally. Im not for open borders at all and its time both sides addressed the crisis, because there has been one for some time. Allow immigration to speed up but manageable. Again, improved efficient management. Congress piss's me off because they don't get enough done so Im for term limits and get rid of lobbist.
    Im for free or mix enterprise where if I wanted to go out at my age and start a business or one of my grandkids they could easily without to many unrealistic regulations.
    But most of all Im a Fanatic Blazer Fan.
     
  19. Lanny

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    I with you every step of the way as a Blazer fan.
    I've seen differing reports on welfare fraud so I'm left wondering just how widespread it is. I've even seen another report that the majority of whatever fraud was done was done by desperately disadvantaged people. I dunno, but I'd say we need accurate numbers to make a decision on how to clamp down. This means a definitive study.
    As for term limits, I against it and I'll tell you why. I think we should send the person that the voters want the most. If this means someone on his tenth term then so be it. If the voters want a fresh face then they should get it. Let's level the field by eliminating large donations to PACs. We already control donations to the candidates themselves. This would allow for the each candidate to make an equal case so the voters could make an informed decision.
    My dad was a bricklayer back when bricklayers earned squat and often did not work at all. My mom was a housewife until she divorced my father when I was 9. She then took up waitressing and earned a little less than squat. She next took up being an LPN and we barely got by. Next she bought a boarding house and life finally got better except that sometimes we had a bad apple for a boarder. Most were interesting and often took a liking to me and my younger brother. We had to move out of Oswego where I had lived for virtually all of my life which broke my heart because of some guy who married my mother and turned out to be a rotten stepfather. My mother divorced him and life got a little better.
    All this time we could have used some help but both my parents were dead set against getting any help from anyone including the church. We even contributed extra to the church when they requested it when really it was us that could use it. I had holes in the bottom of my shoes. At one point I owned a single pair of underpants, boxers that mom picked up at a garage sale for 5¢. No, I support help for the needy. If we have excessive fraud then we have to deal with the worst of the fraud and let slide the fraud that is the least of our problem. There's just no way to eliminate all fraud so let's put our efforts into achieving the greatest return.
    No matter how desperate my situation, I've never gained any government help except unemployment compensation when my company would shut down for periods of time before hiring us all back when they felt like they could afford us.
    Of course, I also get a VA pension for being disabled but that's for something that happened in combat and I consider that an insurance payout rather than a handout.
    There now, you have TMI about my life.
    Don't shed a tear because I have a comfortable life now and my wife who grew up even more disadvantaged than me by quite a margin, also has a comfortable life. We are better off than over 90% of the rest. That's all due to being tenacious in my studies and getting good degrees. Oh, and keeping my nose clean such that I only had the marijuana issue to explain to the NSA before getting my security clearance. I think my honesty on the subject paid dividends. Never had a drug or excessive alcohol issue nor do I lie. Oh, I've told women that I like their dress or say things like "are you losing weight, because you look like you've lost some weight." Those I count as charitable white lies. Oh, yeah, that was delicious but I'm really full and just can't eat more.
     
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    Can we all at least now agree that the President is a straight up racist?



     
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