Politics HERE'S WHY TRUMP WILL SERVE 2 TERMS

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Heard something on the radio today that an NBC poll has Trump's current approval rating higher than Obama's mid-term approval rating in 2010. I'm assuming we're chalking that up to Obama inheriting a mess from Bush, whereas Trump inherited a much better situation from Obama?
     
  2. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    6 homeless persons with typhoid fever so far. I don't think this qualifies as an outbreak.

    http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-ln-typhus-outbreak-20181011-story.html
     
  3. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    Going from 23 to 9 in 3 weeks is. :dunno: that's all I was saying.
     
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    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    No, I think Trump proves there is no negative too large to torpedo Trump's candidacy, if the people hate the candidate running against him. And I feel that much of the Electoral won't vote for the LA mayor (or NY mayor, for that matter). For some reason, they have to go to Iowa, NH, NV and SC a month before Super Tuesday...and what plays in LA doesn't play in Des Moines. And vice versa.

    Serious question, when was the last big-city mayor who had a chance in a Presidential race? Giuliani? Grover Cleveland?
     
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    CupWizier Well-Known Member

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    So if the Blazers were down by 23 late in the 4th and closed it to 9 by the time expired did the Blazers crush it? Polls are exactly what they say they are, just a poll.
    It is actually at 43% unless you are just cherry picking a particular poll which also happens to have a low ranking. Here are the REAL results.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
     
  6. stampedehero

    stampedehero Make Your Day, a Doobies Day Staff Member Moderator

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    Since he won as a novice politician, the Dems should look into recruiting a movie star.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    If it were the same poll, I'd agree with you. But it's different pollsters - not so unusual that they'd disagree by a large amount.
    And... the 9 point poll (Mitchell) is a partisan R poll, which can't really be compared to the other (non-partisan) polls.
    For a better comparison, they (Mitchell) had a poll Sept 12-13, with a 13 pt lead. So maybe going from 13 to 9 in 3 weeks would be a more accurate statement.
    The next most recent pair of polls from the same pollster (Glengariff, in this case) had Stabenow up 23 points Sept 5-7 and 18 points up Sep 30-Oct2.
    So I think it is fair to say the race has tightened by 5 points or so, but not by 14 points.
    And barring any last minute surprises, James is still going to get stomped.

    barfo
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    You might as well ask when the last time a fraudster with no political experience whatsoever got elected before Trump. The sample size is small in any presidential statistic.

    barfo
     
  9. GriLtCheeZ

    GriLtCheeZ "Well, I'm not lookin' for trouble."

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    I saw that clip a long time ago.
     
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    calvin natt Confeve

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    i love that trump called a woman horseface on twitter and his wife's chosen advocacy initiative program is cyber bullying. I mean you cant make this shit up.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    It's what we call an outlier, since Trump lies so much.
     
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    MARIS61 Real American

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    Let's leave that determination to the experts.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-109X(18)30312-7/fulltext

    Typhoid fever—a systemic, life-threatening infection caused by Salmonella enterica serovar Typhi (S Typhi)—causes a considerable burden of disease worldwide. Recent studies estimate that 27 million cases and 200 000 deaths from S Typhi occur annually. Large outbreaks are common in Africa and Asia, but are rare in Latin America.

    In Mexico, the last major S Typhi outbreak, with more than 10 000 cases, occurred in the early 1970s.

    Recently, Central American media channels have reported large typhoid fever outbreaks, although scientific information is scarce. This year, local newspapers reported more than 100 cases in El Salvador


    and a major outbreak in Guatemala during 2017, which affected more than 60 patients and caused two deaths.


    Approximately 300 000–400 000 people—the majority of whom are from Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala—cross the southern Mexican border each year.

    In 2017, the state of Yucatan in southeast Mexico witnessed a sudden and substantial increase in the number of typhoid fever cases, many with severe complications. We did a retrospective analysis at two referral hospitals in Merida, the state capital, which detected 110 cases of typhoid fever between July 18, 2017, and May 24, 2018 (the epidemic period; figure). By comparison, only three positive cultures had been reported from 2000 to 2016.
     
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    Obama, clearly.
     
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    I didn't know we actually had enough proof that Russian stole the election. Nice to know that's settled.
     
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    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    two life terms? Wow, that seems a little stiff for his crimes.
     
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    If he gets a second term, people would puke because an obvious bullshit artist gets another 4 years as President of this great country..
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Do you have to be an expert to determine that 6 cases resulting in death ain't a particularly large number for a city like L.A.?
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Stole it with an extremely large majority of votes?
     
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    Mark Penn, Andrew Stein: Yes, Hillary Clinton will run again -- Here's how she'll easily win the nomination
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    By Mark Penn | The Wall Street Journal
    Hillary Clinton says she won't think about a run until after midterms.

    Get ready for Hillary Clinton 4.0. More than 30 years in the making, this new version of Mrs. Clinton, when she runs for president in 2020, will come full circle—back to the universal-health-care-promoting progressive firebrand of 1994. True to her name, Mrs. Clinton will fight this out until the last dog dies. She won’t let a little thing like two stunning defeats stand in the way of her claim to the White House.

    It’s been quite a journey. In July 1999, Mrs. Clinton began her independent political career on retiring Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan’s farm in upstate New York. Her Senate platform included support for a balanced budget, the death penalty, and incremental health care reform. It was a decisive break from her early-1990s self. Hillary Clinton 2.0 was a moderate, building on the success of her communitarian “It Takes a Village” appeals and pledging to bring home the bacon for New York. She emphasized her religious background, voiced strong support for Israel, voted for the Iraq war, and took a hard line against Iran.

    This was arguably the most successful version of Hillary Clinton. She captured the hearts and minds of New York’s voters and soared to an easy re-election in 2006, leaving Bill and all his controversies behind.

    But Hillary 2.0 could not overcome Barack Obama, the instant press sensation. During the 2008 presidential campaign, Mrs. Clinton held fast to centrist positions that would have assured her victory in the general election. But progressive leaders and donors abandoned her for the antiwar Mr. Obama. Black voters who had been strong Clinton supporters in New York and Arkansas left her column to elect the first African-American president. History was made, but not by Mrs. Clinton. Though she won more delegates from Democratic primaries, activists in caucus states gave Mr. Obama, who had called her “likable enough,” the heartbreaking win.

    Keep reading Mark Penn and Andrew Stein's column in the Wall Street Journal.

    Mark Penn is managing director of the Stagwell Group. He was chief strategist on Bill Clinton’s 1996 presidential campaign, Hillary Clinton’s 2000 Senate campaign, and Mrs. Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Of course the best years are ahead of us. We won't have Trump.
     

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