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  1. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    @Orion Bailey believes this man is a criminal and belongs in jail.
     
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    Are you sure that homeless person wasn't just grocery shopping for domestic meat and enjoying the free heat?
     
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    great post...makes me ashamed of my bad taste joke post!!!!!
     
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    Saw the article. Ironic his dog got shelter at night but he did not. I hope he can get his life together.
     
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    wtf? Sly you trolling ?
     
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    Just a little.

    In a few different threads OB has talked about defunding the police and the increase of homelessness in Portland. Meaning that somehow being homeless is a crime that is not being enforced.
     
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    When in reality, they just need homes. It costs us more not to give them a home than to give them homes.

    It is morally, fiscally, logically and in all other ways wrong to allow our down trodden to fall that far into destitution.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    If he is.....well done FAMS!
     
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    what? Meaning? Your interpretation without investigation?

    Rofl!!!

    way to feed the bottom feeders though.
     
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    So just to be clear on your position, you don't feel that "somehow being homeless is a crime that is not being enforced"?
     
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    of course not.

    However i do feel much of the homeless commit crimes.

    the false narrative around here is that all homeless are victims of circumstances when in fact, many have been there for years ever since they ran away from mommy and daddy when they were teens.
    There is nothing wrong or criminal about being homeless.
    But the homeless have a high percentage of law breaking criminals amongst them.

    i have given snd helped the homeless both on a large scale(working with nonprofits for those in need) as well as delivering personal care packages myself to individuals i knew were trying to help them selves but did fall victim of circumstance.

    Most homeless have no desire to help themselves or they wouldn't be sleeping in tents until noon.

    Now, as the pandemic progresses of course the percent of disenfranchised families will increase and thus, lowering the percent of homeless who dont care about the law.

    But those types are still on tue streets and the denial of it is ludicrous.
     
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    I have housed two different homeless people to help them get back on their feet. Because i dont forget how it was when i was homeless.

    but I'm not willing to waste my time and energy to help those who don't want to help themselves.
    And dont and cant are two different words, before anyone mixes my statement up...
     
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    Desperate people commit crimes. This is true.

    The most efficient and effective solution is to prevent them from being desperate enough to commit crimes in an effort to survive.
     
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    lol. Deny deny deny....


    The teens weren't desperate running away from mommy and daddy in the 80’s and 90’s.

    you know who else commit crimes? Criminals who dont care about the law. And some of those are also homeless.
     
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    But are you willing to save money and have a cleaner and safer city by allowing the government to house them?
     
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    Actually, teens were doing that in the 80s and 90s. It's worse now because the poor have fewer options now. The wealth gap is larger, federal minimum wage is more of a poverty wage, etc.

    Many of those who ran away in the 80s and 90s are the homeless we see now.
     
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    depends on how that program is run. Are we going to just house all homeless regardless of whether they take advantage vs abuse the program?
    Are we going to allow homeless free room and board so they can sleep until noon and then spend the rest of the day looking for thier fix or drink?

    or let me ask this. Do you think a prgram like that would not be taken advantage of?

    would there be a limit? 6 months fre and get your act together or you are back out o nthe street?

    tour question poses a very vague scenario of which, in my opinion, should be much more detailed than just providing room and board for a cleaner city.
    Thats sweeping the dust under the rug and the rug will eventually become a trip hazard.
    No long term improvement will come from simply gifting things without a set of goals to achieve.
     
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    so you agree with me then. Most homeless are teen runaways.
    But see i lived downtown from 91-93. This kids came from the suburbs with nice homes. But were spoiled and or looking for the drug life.
    Not victim of circumstance or poverty.

    are you familiar with the inside out?

    teen runaway shelter and service? Most of those teens are from the suburbs. Not homeless parents.
     

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