Hinrich telling friends ...

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  1. RickyRubio

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    Good point.
     
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    How? I don't see how Hinrich is more of a creator than Blake.
     
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    The numbers for his career do show him to have a higher assist% than Blake - so he is a tiny bit better, I suspect.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Ok.....but a "tiny bit better" won't solve the problem of not getting the ball into Oden.
     
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    Getting Hinrich wouldn't be a thrilling move (like getting Rubio, Rondo or even Sessions), but I think it would be a very strong basketball move. Hinrich is a lot like Blake on offense (though a bit superior as a distributor): a conservative point guard who can hit open shots from the perimeter.

    But his defense is very good. He would be a large upgrade on that end, and that was Portland's greatest need, good defense at the point. I think Portland would actually be slightly more efficient on offense (and they were already among the best in the league in offensive efficiency) but their defense would take a major step forward.

    So if Pritchard ends up landing Hinrich (without giving up Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Batum, Bayless or Rudy), I'll be quite happy. In fact, if he can acquire Hinrich for essentially salary relief and acquire a good backup power forward in the draft, I think the Blazers will be a much better team next season.
     
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    welcome to the forums, hopefully you keep posting. I disagree with you though, I always thought Frye was a reach when the Knicks took him, and that was after 4 years in college. For me, his only interesting season was his rookie year. Hinrich, on the other hand, has accomplished much more in his NBA career until injury and the #1 draft pick came in at his position.

    Getting Hedo would probably require releasing Blake and Outlaw to create enough cap space, leaving the Blazers without a real PG. If you don't get him, you're shit out of luck. Besides, given what Batum has already done, getting a new PG is a higher priority.
     
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    Chicago has an interest in Casspi.

    Maybe todays move is apart of the Kirk trade where we send Casspi to Chicago and they take the player KP wants at #16?
     
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    interesting, but hope this isn't what our cap space plan is all about.
     
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    Of course it would. Having better perimeter defense will allow Oden to stay on the court longer... :devilwink:

    I am just kidding. The biggest problem this team has, imho, is perimeter defense. Getting the ball to Oden will come with time with him improving and the team getting better doing it and trusting him. But - this is not the biggest problem of this team - so I would rather solve the problem of thirst before choosing the color of the cup, if you know what I mean...
     
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    How does Hinrich solve the perimeter defense problem? Back to square one...
     
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    If you insist playing checkers when everyone else plays chess - it's not a surprise when you are stuck at square one... :drumroll:

    I gave you the advances statistics that show that Hinrich is a much better perimeter defender. You choose to ignore it. Fine with me.
     
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    now Tyrus Thomas is getting into the trade talks....
     
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    Actually you gave me statistics from one series, and then other Hinrich supporters claimed that he didn't even guard Rondo or Allen. Or maybe he did? I can't tell from your camp. My take is it seems like he may not be the answer if he can't even be trusted to guard Rajon Rondo. As for the "chess for checkers" line, I haven't seen anything that looks like chess in this thread, just some stats mixed in with opinion.
     
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    No problem. I will give you their career stats. For the career - (both of these guys played 6 years), Blake's Defensive Win Score is 4.7, the Captain's career Defensive Win Score is 18.5 - making him 3 times more valuable, defensively than Blake.

    Is this good now?
     
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    I would guess both.

    With Kirk backing up Sergio, no minutes left.
     
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    Not really since Blake played on crappy team, while Hinrich has gone from starting PG to combo guard off of the bench for a team that has regressed.
     
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    So what you are saying is that they should not have made him a combo guard and not brought him off the bench - and they would not have regressed? Let's capitalize on their mistake, then. :cheers:

    This is just for fun - I think he is a big defensive upgrade on Blake, you do not. Understood.
     
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    Yeah, I wouldn't be upset at Hinrich being a Blazer. At worst he'd be a wash defensively, although I will point out Blake didn't have a shoulder to help him move his hips on defense in these playoffs. I just don't think it is fair to Blake to scapegoat him, as many (not you) did in this thread.

    :cheers:
     
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    lol - When I first saw this thread, I thought maybe Hinrich was coming out of the closet or something! :NOTMARIS:

    First, blaming Blake for the playoff disappointment is silly - Yao owned both our centers more than Blake was having trouble with a speedy opposing guard.

    Assuming it's Hinrich for Blake and Outlaw, I guess it won't hurt much. But, I'm not sure if it will help much.

    Hinrich does play better defense than Blake, but his also gets into foul trouble a lot and, to me, is behind Blake in passing and perimeter shooting. But, not by much.

    I just don't think this will be a "major" upgrade and would prefer to look elsewhere.
     

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