Hollywood Wouldn't Back Lucas Film About Tuskegee Airmen Due to All Black Cast

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    porkchopexpress Well-Known Member

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    In his defense, Trapped in the Closet was pretty fucking epic. And there are apparently 32 all new chapters!
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/dec/22/r-kelly-trapped-in-closet
     
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    Ethel Waters should be known to anyone posting here about racism in the film industry. I know her more through her music credentials, but she's a good example of talent winning out over racism in a time when racism had the support of judges and law enforcement across much of this land.

    Eriq La Salle, on top of starring in too many TV series and movies to count with my fingters and toes, has 10 director credits, 3 producing credits and a writer credit in his resume. He is instantly recognizeable to anyone who owns a tv set.

    In fact, you should just STFU until you know at least some semblance of the basics of your arguement, whatever it may be.

    Yes, all off the top of my head. It's a pretty big list and includes some huge stars that had little problem finding success in acting. Because they are very good at what they do.

    TSE's post doesn't say current, but I left out about 50 older or deceased ones that leapt to mind also.
     
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    So you can name your list (which was mostly made up of people who more known for their non acting careers), plus 50 or so black actors over the course of what, 100 years of film. Yay, progress!
     
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    Instantly recognizable as...hey, that's that dude from ER. Who gives a shit. So is Noah Wylie or whatever his white counterpart was. He's not a star. The Mac kid(Mac vs. PC) is instantly recognizable. he's not a big star. But, I guess that list actually does more service to TSE's post, perhaps. Eriq la salle. gtfo.
     
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    By your definition Brad Pitt is not a serious actor because he participated in basketball, golf, tennis, wrestling and swimming before becoming an actor.

    Carl Weathers had a major role in all 4 Rocky movies, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Semi-Tough, Predator, Happy Gilmore, and has directed 7 TV series and starred in dozens of them.
     
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    yeah, and now you're argument, whatever it may have been, is spiraling. Oh, Carl Weathers, from Happy Gilmore! Yeah, he can carry a movie.

    Big star, not hey, we need a black guy, who can we get.
     
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    Not sure what you're "progressing" toward.? Or why it upsets you that not everyone sees racism in everything.?

    Or why you hate white people.?
     
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    Oh yeah, how could I forget those. You know, those Sly Stalone films...or the film that you have to click 'full cast and crew' to see that he's in it... or that Arnold film....or that Sandler film.
     
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    Maybe you don't understand the definition of star?

    Given the ignorance of most of your posts, I'll go with that.

    Both La Salle and Wylie are bona-fide Hollywood stars, with mega-millions in paychecks to back it up.
     
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    Total up the gate receipts on those and get back to me.

    If you're claiming you don't know Carl Weathers maybe you're racist. :dunno:
     
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    Yes, I hate white people. You got me there. I better go disown half of my family. And half of my wifes. And the most of my friends. And coworkers, can't forget them.

    I don't see racism in everything. I see that you still haven't named more than 1 (Sam Jackson) legit, current, movie star. Oprah??? Whitney Houston??? Famous, yes. Movie stars, hell no. I'm just acknowledging the fact that there aren't that many black/asian/other movie stars in Hollywood or on TV. There are actors, and very successful ones, who are in movies and tv, but not that many true stars.
     
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    When did I claim to not know who he was. He was GREAT in Arrested Development (and yes, the movies you mention as well), I already mentioned that. But you mention movies (Close Encounters) where he does not even appear in the cast on the movies page on IMDB. The other movies on your list, he did star in, but was clearly not THE STAR. Movie poster of Predator = Arnold. Movie poster of Rocky = Sly. Movie poster of Happy Gilmore = Sandler.
     
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    There are true stars, just that few are treated or recognized as such.
     
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    So you're a polygamist also?

    Whitney made $400,000,000 for the investors in The Bodyguard, and quintupled the investor's money in Waiting to exhale. Only a handful of actresses can claim similar claims. Oprah started as an actress, was nominated for an Oscar in The Color Purple, and became the richest black in America of the entire 20th century through acting.

    Pretty funny you acknowledge Samuel L Jackson as a "big movie star" when either of these actresses command more than his entire life's income for a single role in a movie.
     
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    You're confusing talent with idolation.
     
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    You're completely wrong, as usual :)
     
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    Dude just seems bitter about the film industry in general. The racism thing just seems like a cynical angle to promote his movie.

    I plan on seeing Red Tails this week end mainly cause my dad wants to see it and it's his turn to pick the movie.

    http://movies.msn.com/paralleluniverse/george-lucas-talks-star-wars-critics/story/feature/

    From the article:

    For any fans awaiting future "Star Wars" films from George Lucas, it's going to be a long wait. The creator of the famed series says he's not going to make any more of these movies and that he's essentially retiring. And for that he blames the harsh feedback from certain fans.

    "The creator of the famed series says he's not going to make any more of these movies and that he's essentially retiring. And for that he blames the harsh feedback from certain fans.

    "Why would I make any more when everybody yells at you all the time and says what a terrible person you are?"

    "I'm moving away from the business, from the company, from all this kind of stuff,"
     
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    No, but as usual you don't have a clue about your subject.

    The most talented people in the world rarely achieve stardom. Most are completely unknown by the general public.

    Stars are made with money and media. They are known worldwide because they are advertised on a mass scale. Few of them have talent worth noting.
     
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    Except, obviously, releasing all six episodes in theaters in 3D. Other than that he's stepping away.

    Remember when Jar-Jar Binks stepped in the poop and then hopped around on one foot in exasperation? Yeah, the fans are too hard on 'ol George.
     

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