<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBlaze @ Mar 24 2006, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Oooh sorry, I'll shut up then because you're the expert. So what if they isolate themselves, that only proves my point. By your logic, isolating themselves from a corrupt society would explain why they don't have the problems we do.</div> They have all the same problems people in the 1800's had and i'm not kidding. Incest, abuse, sexual assault is pretty high with the Amish because they are so male dominated and old fashioned with religion. Most of them are good people though, I respect them for how they live, Melo and I had a AIM discussion about this a while back.
It is true. We all have issues to some degree, but many people who are sexually abused and traumatized as children grow up confused about their sexual preference, a lot of bi people have issuse. The last thing I want to have to deal with is a chick who's suffering from PTSD or just has a history of abuse, "normal" girls are enough of a pain in my <Censored>.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Mar 24 2006, 11:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They have all the same problems people in the 1800's had and i'm not kidding. Incest, abuse, sexual assault is pretty high with the Amish because they are so male dominated and old fashioned with religion. Most of them are good people though, I respect them for how they live, Melo and I had a AIM discussion about this a while back.</div>Some of that may be true, but again you exaggerate it. That's irrelevant of the issue anyway, they don't have so many emotionally disturbed and confused people in their culture because they follow the traditional standards of a family. Maybe they are harsh in the way they discipline their kids, or something like that, but at least they don't grow up traumatized and homosexual. I'm not saying that they're perfect becasue obviously no one is, but compared to our society, they're a hell of a lot better off.
My Amish thing was on-topic, I was just using it as an example of how our culture would be if we stuck to the traditional model of a family, and didn't let homosexuals marry. I don't like gay people and I think it's wrong, but when you bring children into the equation I'm definitely against it. If they want to go <Censored> <Censored> and do whatever then I don't care, they'll get judged for it so it doesn't matter to me. Bringing children into their fucked up "families" is wrong though, a child has no right to be subjected to the confusion and ridicule that is associated with that type of lifestyle, it's not their choice and the last thing we need is another fucked up person in our culture. That's not to say that all children who are the product of those environments turn out to be bad people, but they have a higher chance of emotional issues that can easily be avoided by not allowing gay people to raise children.
Funny how when kids in homosexual families are asked about it they don't care. I have watched numerous specials on kids adopted into gay relationships and the only problem seems to be homophobes. All kids need is love, we have millions of kids in this country living without a dad or a mom as it is. With all the parents in this country getting divorces I don't see homosexuals adopting kids as a problem. Non-gay households are disfunctional and full of problems as well. Why do you care if a few gay people get married? What would be the problem? It wouldn't affect you and your heterosexual relationships, gay people aren't burning buildings down and killing people they just want to live like everyone else, homophobes are the ones not letting this go. If homophoebs would get over their third grade predjuduce we wouldn't have to worry about this minor issue.
I have two nieces who have lesbian parents, and so far they're not too emotionally distorted, though they are confused about why they have no father. At their age it's difficult to tell what the lasting emotional effects of their environment are, so I'll have to see.I said before that I understand that there are plenty of families out there with single parents, but none willingly chose the situation. Maybe a parent died, is in jail, they got divorved, the father (or mother) abandoned their child(ren), what ever the case is , they didn't choose to only have one parent. If you know that your child is at a disadvantage without having members of both gender playing a parental role in their lives, then why have a child? It's like someone who is living in extreme poverty and can barely afford to keep themselves alive having kids, if you're not able to provide a stable and structured environment for your children then don't have them.I understand that heterosexual households have problems also, any family will. Having homosexual parents is just creating another unecessary problem which can easily avoided though. Actually, I've read and I agree with the fact that gay parents love their children more and are better parents. They choose to have the child, they're never a "mistake" and they usually do a better job of caring for the child, as they understand the gift of parenthood.That being said, these children are still at a greater risk for mental issues. A single mother might love her child and be a great parent, but that doesn't mean that the child will still be lacking certain things that those of us who have parents of both sex do have. Having gay parents is even worse, because not only do you not have both genders involved as parents, but you have the confusion and complication associated with that type of family there also.Is is true that many heterosexual couples shouldn't have children too? Yes. My point is that you should only bring a child into this world if you can provide the best for them, and having a gay parents is not the best you can do for a child.Why do I care if they get married? Because the last thing we need is more emotionall disturbed and traumatized people in our society. Many children who are the product of heterosexual environments grow up to be rapits, murders, basically burdens on society also, so I'm not saying that hetero kids are great and homo kids are fucked up criminals, because that isn't true. Dangerous criminals are almost always the result of a childhood that was abusive, traumatic, hurtful, the type of family that a child should not be brought into. This brings me back to my point that people who are not capable of providing the best for their children should not have children. A child who is brought into a homosexual family is at a higher risk for mental issues which in turn can create a fucked up adult.This is not a third grade prejudice, it is a legitimate and serious problem in our culture. The foundation of any stable country is good morals and a structured family environment, which homosexuals can not provide.As I have previously stated, I find homosexuality in all its forms to be morally wrong and unnatural, but if two consensting adults want to love each other then they can do that, they will be judged like the rest of us and they will pay the consequences for sinning.I am stricly against homosexuals having children because it is unfair to the child and to the society that has to live with the people that many of them grow up to be. I would not have liked to be born into a gay family, I'm lucky that I was born into a loving heterosexual family. Were my parents perfect? No. Did I have a hurtful childhood? At times yes. I do have certain problems which resulted from the childhood I had, and I don't see why someone would want to bring a child into a family that would cause them issues. I would be a better person were it not for the events that happened in my childhood, and I wouldn't want any other child to being unwillingly forced into families that couldn't provide the best possible childhood for their offspring.Even if you disagree with everything I've said, homosexuality is a sin in the Bible, and therefore I view it as wrong. According to my beliefs it wrong, and for me that's the bottom line.
R u Seriously saying they areGay or Lesbian becasue they are raped when they were younger? Maybe some of them just perfer the same sex like Tomboys when they grow up what you expect some parents raise there daughters playing with GI Joes instead of Barbies it could just mean because they grew up with all brothers maybe but I garauntee all Homosexuals weren't abused when they were little
No I didn't say that, I said that bi people are often the result of sexual abuse. I didn't say that people are gay because they've been raped. Children with homosexual parents are often confused about their own sexuality, along with that comes the problems of not having both genders present in their lives, they have more issues to deal with then someone who grows up in a heterosexual household with a strutured family.
Why would kids be confused by having two females as parents? I'm sure the parents would explain it to the child.
Of course they would understand why they have two female parents, but that doesn't mean the child would accept the fact easily or not feel as though he/she is missing something that other children have.
The same thing happens for a majority of black kids and millions all over. A little kid might be confused at first but I really doubt it's a huge developmental problem because their are not many problems historicly with this. My dad is a pretty crappy dad and never did much with me, as a child I wouldn't have minded having a second mom considing he never taught me much of anything.
Why should homosexuality bother you unless a gay guy makes an advance towards you? Personally I don't care, I think you're gay when you're born and theres nothing you can do to stop it.
A gay guy hit on my dad near a HS hangout on some railroad tracks over the lake...my dad kicked his <Censored> and pushed him into the river.
Not trying 2 be a <Censored> but.... i honestly cannot stand gay ppl....they gross me out, like i just think the whole thing is ridiciouls! and some gay ppl, come up for excuses why they're gay! That just pisses me off! They're like my parents didnt love me so im gay! I just dont understand how that makes u gay? I mean WTF!! I just think the whole concept is gross!
I think that post is gay...nobody blames their parents for being gay...and I bet you have never met any gay people or had to work with any.
Man im from rural Ohio....there is no gay ppl in my town, and if there is they are like real in the closet
How can you hate people you have had little contact with? I go to school and have worked with gay people and it's people like you who make their lives hell.