Honest question for Stotts supporters

Is Devonte Graham a future MVP then?

 

My 2 cents on Kerr - He had a huge impact in that team, and you could tell if you watched the way they played. With Jackson, they were stagnant and played a lot like we do now. When they brought in Kerr, all of a sudden they started moving the ball at an extremely high level and it jelped them get hgeat looks consistently. Kerr definitely turned that team into a contender with his coaching.

That's what we need.

 

I also think Kerr got them to buy into defense. Dont take this the wrong way, Im not saying you dont look at or know defense too, but it seems like you talk about the offense a lot more than me when it comes to coaching. That team was pretty bad defensively until Bogut, Green and Iggy were unleashed, but also and maybe more importantly Klay and Steph bought into it.

 

In my opinion, those GS teams played the most enjoyable brand of basketball to watch, it was a thing a beauty. Steve Kerr deserves credit for being much better than Mark Jackson. I don't think Portland has had a roster that comes close to the level the Warriors have had. I also don't buy into the notion that more ball movement is always the best for every roster.

As great of a coach as Kerr is, he currently has 2 players who are still in the prime of their career (or improving) and have been an all-star in one of the past 2 seasons. With 2 all-stars at his disposal, they're 7-24. Do I give him a pass because of injuries? Of course! However, when a team with 2-3 weak pieces on floor moves the ball a lot, those weak pieces often end up with a much higher usage than you'd want, and the results can be poor.

Having said that, Kerr is a GREAT coach. If we could trade him for Stotts I'd do it in two seconds.

 

Draymond isnt good without having multiple stars around him. He's declined mightily too. On this team, he's an average starter.

Russell is solid but its arguable just how much he contributed to winning basketball. He's also not a fit in Kerr's system. Kerr's system is also hard to learn, and most of his players are new.

Its funny how people refuse to give him credit and instead, freak out over this season.

 

Replacing Stotts would definitely increase the likeliehood of Dame winning a championship

 

If we got Popovich or Kerr I agree.

If we get Donovan or one of the many below average coaches I disagree.

 

I'm really not a fan of Donovan, but he made a nice adjustment in that GS series a few years ago.
It's true that he lost the series, but i think Stotts would have made NO adjustment and he would have lost 4-0 if put in that position.

 

I agree with all three points.

I think it's very common for people to dismiss fit, the impact of injuries, or the changes in personnel had on other players ability to be productive. Much easier to just say Kerr (or insert coach) is doing a bad job.

 

Funny how that works. OKC fans thought Stotts totally out coached Donovan last year and that he's a bum. This is a common theme with fans after their team loses a series.

 

... if they got a better coach.

 

Um... obviously if we got a good coach then wed be better than if we got a horrible coach?

I bet you theres a Pop or a Kerr out there waiting for a chance

 

Obviously.

 

Donovan is the worst coach in the entire NBA... thats bot a "theme".

 

First off that link is for Steph not Devonte Graham. Because that is who the conversation was about.
Next the statement is "All-Star Talent".

Both you and Hoops need reading is fundamental classes.

Yes i would say he has the makings of an All-Star talent. Even more so if you put 3 other All-Stars around him and start winning playoff games. However he probably should start getting go work on those free throws. At least get them over 80%
You do realize he is in the Eastern Conference and not the West right? DWade is no longer playing and Olapido is injured as is Kyrie. Kemba is having a pretty good year. Ben Simmons isn't playing bad but his points are down. Ben's Assists are awesome at over 8 a game. How long does Graham have before you give him any credit?

One other point that seems to be important. You do realize he was taken in the second round with the 34th pick right? Now you want to compare that kid to Steph? Really?

 

I hate when people use Kerr this season to defend Stotts. It makes 0 sense.

 

Hey, Im KJ, Im going to mis-word things, go back and pretend I didnt say exactly what I said, contradict myself in the same post, then blame everyone else for being confused!

Dont come at me with that snark man, because I can volley it.

 

There ya go? Nobody playing a victim at all.
Nobody "Came at you". It's not about coming at anyone. It's about what you said and what you were saying. The quotes are yours and they are yours alone. Black and White on my screen. Not even green font!
Nobody said you bashed Stotts? What you were doing was saying statements that were untrue about what Kerr did in a way to diminish what Stotts has done.
Kerr was Hired in May correct. But that team won 51 games and they had Steph, Klay, Iggy, Green, Lee, Bogut, O'neal, Speights. Their only real transaction that mattered was Livingston also McAdoo if you want to throw him in. They drafted Looney the following summer.
Again i'll post another Link-
https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/GSW/2015_transactions.html

There has never been a time i said Kerr was and has not been a good or even superb coach. What i have said is that he inherited a dream situation that every coach in the NBA would have loved to get. Then i posted links that said as much from analysts around the league.

As far as what my holiday consists of? That is just another silly superficial jab to take the context of the conversation away from what you have said. What i call "Muddying The Waters".

Oh and by the way. I didn't change the order. I took it pretty much page to page (2-6) in line other than addressing separate issues. One being Kerr and the other being draft picks. Sorry. That narrative wont work here either.

Merry Christmas!

 

They irony is so strong after literally misrepresenting a comment by transferring "MVP" with "All-Star Talent" i don't even know where to begin.
Interested in where you get that i contradicted myself in my response?
I also would like to see where i blamed anyone for being confused?

"Hey I'm Bones.... When someone totally blows my theory out of the water I get my feelings hurt and lash out with some insult."

Nobody "Came At You". Somebody just pointed out again what you do all the time. Twist responses and try to get or take the conversation away from the original point. Changing the wording of a comment changes the content.

Oh and by the way. I will respond however i like as long as it is within the parameters of the rules of the Forum. If you think that is "Coming at you" then that is just too bad. Responding to a comment you made to me about a conversation i am having with someone else would not be "Me Coming At You". Quite the contrary.