" Since the new moon is not in the same state at the same time globally, the beginning and ending dates of Ramadan depend on what lunar sightings are received in each respective location. As a result, Ramadan dates vary in different countries, but usually only by a day. This is due to the cycle of the moon."
Guess it's OK for us to have Muslims after 2023. smh. Ramadan won't be during playoff time. Until then, stay away.
Okay, so I did a little research and found that Ramadan moves back by 11 days each year due to the lunar cycle not matching the Gregorian calendar. That’s good information that you could have shared without the snark. Probably that explains Olajuwon’s performance during his finals runs. They didn’t occur during Ramadan. The food fast likely has little impact on performance, but not drinking liquids during periods of high energy use, with accompanying sweat loss, no way that doesn’t impact a player’s game.
That wasn't the only ignorant part of your post. You ASSUME Aminu and Nurk are also fasting, and are correlating Kanter's performance to the fast, while ignoring the more obvious reasons for it. The biggest trigger for me was your idea that we should avoid these guys altogether. And that's not words in your mouth-- you said it. "I said I wouldn't have three guys who were fasting for the entire month of May every year. "
I assumed nothing. I watched the video that dviss1 posted. Both Nurk and Chief said they observe Ramadan. My point that having three guys who are main rotation players all fasting at the same time isn’t viable for an NBA franchise, I stand by that unless you can provide medical support that lack of fluids doesn’t affect the human body.
good to know, and it certainly would indicate that Hakeem's performance 25 years ago isn't relevant to what's happening now
maybe it was some in-artful language, but I sure don't see that it isn't a relevant discussion. Being concerned about the idea of having 3 rotation players, including two starters, fasting during the playoffs, including going without hydration isn't anti-religion IMO. I mean, they could be 7th Day Adventists and refuse to play on Saturdays. That' would be an issue to consider as well
Don't really wanna go down this path already to derail this thread further, but I'll admit my post was probably harsh. While they might be at a disadvantage physically, each and every person in that video mentioned how much stronger they are mentally as a result of the fast.
just as an ancillary observation, I think somebody should clearly demonstrate and establish their racism or intolerance before being accused of those transgressions. Too often the indictment and conviction happen with very little evidence
maybe the nutrition aspect can be overcome; but for basketball, I think the lack of hydration is a killer. You just can't be optimal when you're dehydrated.
Regardless, I'll stick to my guns on this one that this whole thing is overblown. And it definitely should not matter in our player personnel decisions. Why does no one ever bring up Kareem or Shaq when this discussion comes up? It's always just Hakeem.
This was my fault. Truly. I suggested they may be and posted this: http://www.sportstwo.com/posts/4744105/
I’ve fasted, but not without liquids. I don’t see that going without food for a half a day is anything that’s going to seriously impact sports performance. Going without liquid intake while losing buckets of sweat? Different story.
I'm really not trying to be combative yuyuza, but I'm not sure what 'guns' it is you're sticking too...? today, daylight lasts 15 hours. Do you really believe somebody expressing concern about 3 rotation players, including 2 starters, going without food and water for 15 hours a day during the playoffs is an 'overblown' concern? can we at least agree that it wasn't some form of religious intolerance, or at least not established by the post you objected to? it really might be helpful to have some data on this but it looks like an inconclusive landscape: "Design Two Algerian professional soccer teams (55 men) were studied. Field tests of physical and soccer performance were collected before, at the end and 2 weeks after Ramadan in 2004. Players were queried on sleeping habits and personal perception of training and match performance. Setting Field setting at club training ground. Main outcome measures Performance on fitness and skill tests. Results Performance declined significantly (p<0.05) for speed, agility, dribbling speed and endurance, and most stayed low after the conclusion of Ramadan. Nearly 70% of the players thought that their training and performance were adversely affected during the fast." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2465333/ another: "The absence of fluid intake in the day may have a greater impact on performance than the absence of food, especially when training and competition take place in thermally stressful environments. Even mild dehydration may have adverse effects on a number of physiological and cognitive functions that are important components of performance. Collectively, these changes may cause perturbations that alter the physiological responses to exercise, which may have detrimental effects on sports performance. ............................................ It is well established that hypohydration can reduce physical performance. A recent review of the literature concluded that, in warm-to-hot weather, dehydration by 2% or more of BM will impair the performance of aerobic exercise, and may also degrade mental/cognitive function. In addition, mild-to-moderate levels of hypohydration produce small but significant decrements in high-intensity exercise " https://www.researchgate.net/public...g_on_Sports_Performance_and_Training_A_Review that one's an insanely long read that made my eyes glaze over about 13% thru it main thing is that logically, we just about have to assume it limits performance. That at least makes it worthy of discussion and consideration the other side of it may be that you just have to assign priorities, individually and as an organization. And perhaps, at a certain point, treating people right trumps winning a damn basketball game
@wizenheimer , that is for soccer though. According to this article, typically a soccer player runs three times as much during a game. You never see a back to back in soccer because of it. https://www.runnersworld.com/runners-stories/a20805366/the-distance-run-per-game-in-various-sports/
