Exclusive How Crabbe's Deal Affects the Blazers Financial Future

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I tend to agree with you, once you see it laid out like that.
     
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    ah
     
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    Moral of the story: let that "Geo Metro" be & let's find a Ford Fiesta to replace his/its ass!:auto:
     
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    Not really a good analogy. If we let AC go, we don't have his 17-18 mil to throw at another replacement -- that number comes down to like 2-3.
     
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    If we let Crabbe go but retain our other RFAs we will have the Mini-MLE (room exception some call it?) for 2.7 MIL to sign a replacement shooter.

    Admittedly there are not a lot of exciting names out there but here are the top remaining swingmen (not saying they would all take that low of a price):
    Gerald Green
    Chase Budinger
    Alan Anderson
    Troy Daniels, restricted
    Jason Terry
    Wayne Ellington
    Kevin Martin
     
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    Gotcha. Still, THE thing that I would like most is if the offer sheet could somehow get torn up & then we got a S&T for him that involved RHJ & whatever; sadly... I've a bad feeling this won't happen:oops:
     
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    I would take Kevin Martin off our bench, for sure.
     
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    @ this point... I'd take/accept his often injured-ass too:unsure:
     
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    As a 15 mpg spot player, that's not a bad idea.
     
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    Is now a good time to try and get Sabonis from OKC in a trade while their heads are spinning?

    Somebody mentioned that Marcus Smart might be available. Maybe a 3 way that lands us both would be nice.

    Crabbe to OKC and Ed / Leonard to Boston with fillers..?????

    Just not sure I can watch him in a jersey other than ours. Especially if he develops like I think he will.
     
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    If we match Crabbe, we can't trade him until December.

    OKC isn't dealing Sabonis.

    Trading for Smart would be great, if we have anything Boston wants. Plumlee, perhaps?
     
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    If I was the GM, I'd probably try to find a home for Plums until Sunday. If I can't get at least a 1st for him, I keep him, and don't match Crabbe. If we can trade Plums, you keep Crabbe
     
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    I think this is most likely what POR is at least considering.
     
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    Which is much closer to what he's worth.
     
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    This has probably been answered about 10 times in this thread, but I'm feeling lazy: if we match Brooklyn's offer, can we immediately trade Crabbe to (say) Philly? Or is that prohibited?
     
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    Nope--can't trade him until 12/15, and can't trade him to NJ, or anywhere else without his permission, for the entire first year.
     
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    Which I think is fair.
     
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    We can trade him anywhere after the season, and before the LT calculations are made for the following season.
     
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    Match Crabbe and let him start next to Dame. Trade Lennard and CJ for Cousins.

    Be sure to sign Hark

    Done
     
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    Here's a great summary of the Blazers cap situation if we match Crabbe - that to "Wiz" at another board

    "I just wanted to take a little more detailed look at what Portland's cap situation could be next season

    Damian Lillard $26,153,057
    Evan Turner $17,131,148
    Al-Farouq Aminu $7,319,035
    Ed Davis $6,352,531
    C.J. McCollum $25,000,000 (guess)
    Anderson Varejao (stretched) $1,984,005
    Jake Layman $905,249
    Festus Ezeli $7,400,000
    2017 1st round pick $1,500,000
    Allen Crabbe $19,000,000
    Mo Harkless $13,000,000 (guess)

    126.5 million with a projected luxury tax threshold somewhere below 122 million. And that's only for 9 actual players. Notice that there are only 2 bigs there, with a 3rd being Aminu as a stretch-4. (Plumlee, Meyers, Vonleh, & Connaughton are not there) Even filling out the rest of the roster with veteran minimum types would still add 6-10 million more in salary and twice that (or more) in tax

    and that team there is not anything close to a contender. Depending on who else they add, it might barely be a playoff team and could be lottery

    even if you delete Crabbe's contract, the Blazers are still going to be tight against the luxury tax. Maybe tighter if Harkless gets a bigger offer. Just because the cap jumped dramatically doesn't mean mathematical correlations have changed. At the base of the problem here is that Portland will very likely be paying Dame-CJ-Turner 70 million a year. Forget about that being close to 70% of the cap, the more important ratio is that it will be 57-60% of the room between 0 and the tax threshold. Those guys will be Portland's 'big-3' and I just don't think the rest of the league will be scared of that big-3

    I don't know if Olshey will match Crabbe's offer or not. I can't come up with any logical reason why he should but we know logic might not control this decision

    I know it's Paul Allen's money. If he's ok paying gagillions in luxury tax, then oh well.

    I think another potential problem, and it could be huge, is if there's a lockout or a strike next July 1. If/when that's resolved it's very likely the luxury tax will be even more punitive then it is now. So teams carrying a high payroll may be in even deeper doodoo. There will probably be some kind of amnesty provision but that's not certain

    personally, I think people know where I stand on this: don't match Crabbe's deal and let Meyers walk. I'd even set a limit on how much to match a Harkless offer and it would probably be in the 14-15 million range."
     

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