Forum Game How do you build a contender around Dame in the next couple years?

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  1. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Keon Johnson is 6'3.5 with an 8'1 standing reach. Norman Powell was 6'3 with an 8'6.5 standing reach. If Norm wasn't a SF-sized player, how is Keon Johnson?
     
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    Something tells me Dame has something up his sleeve. He knows as well as anyone that FA's don't sign here. So, why would he sign off on these moves unless a) he knows that some big talent has a silent agreement to sign here or force a trade here, b) he knows he's being traded as part of the rebuild. I have faith that a) is the most likely plan.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    I have faith that b) is the most likely plan, but I hope it's a).
     
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    He's not a SF-sized player, but really only Winslow is. Nas is short AF too, it's just Powell was smaller and Keon is even smaller. If our haul for RoCo and Powell was for a guy they envision playing the 1 or 2 rather than undersized SF then we are even worse off. Again I'm saying one of these guys needs to transcend their size as Nas is too small to play SF really against the elite ones. I'm trying to paint how truly hopeless our situation is with the GAPING hole at PF and our SF's being undersized to put it mildly.
     
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    For your information (and clearly you need a lot) Justice Winslow measured the same exact height as Nas at his predraft, had the same exact standing reach & was 3 lbs lighter. They are both squarely in SF size range as FYI no one plays hoops with the top of their head. Good grief, research then post.

    https://www.nbadraft.net/2015-nba-draft-combine-measurements/

    https://www.nbadraft.net/2019-nba-draft-combine-measurements/

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    Rebuilds require assets. None of Cronin's moves have been motivated by asset aquisition.
     
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    we have potentially two lottery picks, cap space if we choose it expiring contracts, a superstar, a couple of good young players and trade exception. We have options more than we had before while I question some of the trades at least we aren’t locked in anymore.
     
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    I was mad about the Jermaine trade for an entire decade. Looks like I get to do that all over again now. When do we get to be the team that rips off someone else?
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    When Keon Johnson becomes a stud!!

    No, I don't believe it either.
     
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    Kevin Durant is 6'10", LBJ is 6'9", Kawhi and Luka are 6'7" none of them are remotely defendable by guys who are 6'5" tall unless they are exceptional defenders which none of the SF's we have are, and yes I am aware that length matters. They have Winslow at an inch taller than Nas on ESPN which is what I went with. Any reason you decided to be rude rather than just state your points?

    https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3135047/justise-winslow

    https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4395652/nassir-little
     
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    Don't remember which thread it was in, but I think I'm pretty much down with the plan articulated by someone else in here: male every effort to use the picks, youngsters and TPE to make deals for impact forwards to reload around Dame, and then if they're unable to make that happen within the first couple weeks of July, deal Dame for the biggest package you can get. It's time.
     
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    We already did that under Pritchard with Batum, Roy and Aldridge. Sadly Roy's knees weren't made for longevity.
     
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    So do you feel we have more assets and ability to rebuild now than we did two weeks ago?
     
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    Evan Turner for Kent Bazemore?
     
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    if Portland is going to trade Dame...big if....but if they are I think they have to bet on Dame showing he's still a force next season. The trade deadline will be a better time for a Dame trade than the off-season following the worst season of his career, followed by surgery for a chronic injury. The "couple of weeks" deadline is not logical IMO. Impatience won't be Portland's ally
     
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    List Free Agents you want Cronin to go after.
     
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    Clone Dame, Jordan, Durant, Lebron, Sabonis.

    Wait 18 years.

    Profit!
     
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    I figured if we're going full rebuild, we would want to have another tank year, which we wouldn't want a healthy Dame to affect. The two weeks thing isn't a "deadline" per se, just an approximation of how long it would take to know whether or not the FO would be able to give Dame a legit shot at a contender.

    But sure, your way is an option too.
     
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    It’s such a shitty list it’s depressing. Zach Lavine? Kevon Looney and let Nurk go? I don’t know. It is not a good year for FA
     
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    Absolutely
     
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