How does Lillard take this?

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Bingo Bango, Feb 9, 2023.

  1. Bingo Bango

    Bingo Bango Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2021
    Messages:
    943
    Likes Received:
    734
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Give me a break. You can speculate all you want about the potential downside of the trade, but Phoenix has at least given themselves a shot at the title, while Portland is nowhere close to a title.
     
  2. Bingo Bango

    Bingo Bango Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2021
    Messages:
    943
    Likes Received:
    734
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Even fabulously wealthy players (and the NBA is full of them) want to win championships.
     
  3. blazedanugz

    blazedanugz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2010
    Messages:
    2,176
    Likes Received:
    1,529
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes a good return. We got a valuable asset, in the best draft in years for an expiring contract. What did you expect to get from hart?
    We now have 5 FRPs if we take protections off the bulls pick. If not and we do t make the playoffs then we have two picks in this deep draft
     
    BBert and RR7 like this.
  4. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2008
    Messages:
    23,764
    Likes Received:
    36,338
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If RealGm is any indication, there are a lot of Phoenix fans who hate the trade
     
  5. andalusian

    andalusian Season - Restarted

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    15,020
    Likes Received:
    14,251
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    San Marcos, CA
    Just like Brooklyn fans celebrated getting Durant, Kyrie and Harden?
     
    RR7 likes this.
  6. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2014
    Messages:
    15,687
    Likes Received:
    16,819
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think Dame is probably feeling so good about the state of his game that he just wants to get some playoff run in. If he can get that, even if it's a quick first round exit and the Knicks can get that then punting won't look so bad. We will have the Knicks' pick and the ability to trade the rights to the player we pick with it along with four FRPs, we'll still have Shae, we'll still have Ant and Nurk's contracts, we'll still be the only team that has Grant's bird rights, we'll have reset the repeater tax clock to where we can't be a repeater team until the new TV deal kicks in.

    I'm not holding my breath that the most optimistic outlook on this is accurate but if the objective is trying to make this team a contender on draft day then we may have just done that but it would take a lot of guts to do the kind of things necessary on draft day that would make us relevant and Joe hasn't shown a lot of guts yet but that also doesn't mean he doesn't have them.
     
    e_blazer likes this.
  7. SharpeScooterShooter

    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

    Joined:
    May 23, 2022
    Messages:
    6,192
    Likes Received:
    5,060
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Freeloader
    Location:
    Mom’s basement
    you keep saying we have four first round picks. Where did they come from?
    What are you referring to?
    If we do, why don't we consolidate and move up? Likely cant pry the number one pick but number 2?

    you have thoroughly confused me on what assets we have currently.
     
  8. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    24,060
    Likes Received:
    30,047
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Consultant
    Location:
    Oregon City, OR
    Nobody who knows anything about the CBA and Portland’s assets thought that the goal for this season was to put together a contender by the trade deadline. Getting the pieces needed to contend is a chess game, not checkers. Cronin is still moving pawns to, hopefully, set things up for a bigger summer.
     
    BBert likes this.
  9. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2008
    Messages:
    23,764
    Likes Received:
    36,338
    Trophy Points:
    113
    he's assuming the Blazers will make a deal with Chicago to lift protections on the 2023 first they owe. That would free up the 2025, 2027, & 2029 Blazer first round picks and be added to the Kincks pick they got yesterday
     
    SharpeScooterShooter likes this.
  10. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    58,683
    Likes Received:
    58,963
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He seemed to take the Cam Reddish trade well yesterday. He was nothing but a pro in his post game interviews. He understands it's a business. I think he understands there is way other teams get to easily trade for stars and contend while the Blazers have to build differently. He is loyal and patient. Can't ask for more from him.

    Durant to Phoenix might sting a bit for him.
     
    BBert, Bingo Bango and RR7 like this.
  11. SharpeScooterShooter

    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

    Joined:
    May 23, 2022
    Messages:
    6,192
    Likes Received:
    5,060
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Freeloader
    Location:
    Mom’s basement
    ahhhh okay. I was like, what planet was i on to miss these frps come in!!!
     
  12. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2008
    Messages:
    23,764
    Likes Received:
    36,338
    Trophy Points:
    113
    ++
    I'd think since every time the Blazers have played the Suns over the last few season Dame has been guarded by either Bridges or Johnson he probably recognizes their value and that the Blazers don't have players like that
     
  13. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2014
    Messages:
    15,687
    Likes Received:
    16,819
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Sorry, the idea is that we squeak into the playoffs at the same time as the Knicks make the playoffs and therefore if we use the Knicks pick for someone else and have our 2024, '26, '28 and '30 FRPs available to trade conceptually at the start of the new league year but deals are made on draft night all the time that won't be official until the start of the new league year.
     
    SharpeScooterShooter likes this.
  14. SharpeScooterShooter

    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

    Joined:
    May 23, 2022
    Messages:
    6,192
    Likes Received:
    5,060
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Freeloader
    Location:
    Mom’s basement
    all good my man. Im easily confused. :)
     
    blazerkor likes this.
  15. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    28,943
    Likes Received:
    9,598
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Phone Psychic
    Location:
    The Deep State, US and A.


    sounds like he’s tired of the management riding his coattails
     
    Chris Craig and Bingo Bango like this.
  16. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2014
    Messages:
    15,687
    Likes Received:
    16,819
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Dame putting out cryptic tweets/IG posts might mean a Dame trade in July and some of you getting your wish that we build around the youth on this team and maybe a lotto pick of ours and a mid first rounder of the Knicks.

    More likely it means I'm still on the same merry-go-round and who knows when this thing will stop. It's fucking dizzying though.
     
    Bingo Bango likes this.
  17. Bingo Bango

    Bingo Bango Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2021
    Messages:
    943
    Likes Received:
    734
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Sorry, but it’s all just tinkering. As long as other teams keep getting the star players Portland can’t get, the Blazers will forever be on the outside looking in.
     
  18. andalusian

    andalusian Season - Restarted

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    15,020
    Likes Received:
    14,251
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    San Marcos, CA
    No need to feel sorry. No one is blaming you.
     
  19. Bingo Bango

    Bingo Bango Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2021
    Messages:
    943
    Likes Received:
    734
    Trophy Points:
    93
    But that’s not the point. The teams that win titles are the ones that acquire major players, and Portland can’t do that. The new rules in the NBA “success game” have essentially eliminated Portland from competing.
     
    Chris Craig likes this.
  20. blazedanugz

    blazedanugz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2010
    Messages:
    2,176
    Likes Received:
    1,529
    Trophy Points:
    113
    you are just ignoring the fact we didn’t have assets to go get these guys right now. This is. I doubt a win and sets us up for more deals in the future.
     
    RR7 likes this.

Share This Page