Politics How Donald Trump & Hillary Clinton Have Made the Libertarian Party Relevant

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  1. BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94

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    Having Clinton, Trump, and Johnson being asked questions by Perez Hilton and Andy Dick would be the best possible scenario.
     
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  2. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Rock stars play in sports arenas. Trump speaks in sports arenas.

    Since Hilar was anointed, it's amusing to watch Sanders freak her out.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    http://www.factcheck.org/2008/06/clinton-and-the-popular-vote/

    Q: Did Clinton win the popular vote?

    A: Obama won more votes unless you count Michigan, where he wasn’t on the ballot.
     
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    I would vote Kasich if he got in through the Republican ranks. Otherwise, the Libertarian vote can actually be at its highest peak ever as everyone sees Trump and Clinton as sorry choices.
     
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  6. Denny Crane

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    Popular vote doesn't matter. See? Glad you agree with me. Maybe there's hope for you yet. Long way to go, though.

    Hiliar has 251 more delegates than Sanders at this point, not counting the politburo.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Really don't know what your point is, assuming you even have one.

    Right, so what's your point again? She's got more delegates, more votes, more states, and you think that there's something undemocratic going on?

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    Would you say the 359 superdelates Hillary collected before the Primary started influenced the masses at all?
     
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    Probably they did have some influence, yes. As did many other things. But if you want voters to be uninfluenced, you are going to have to keep them in the dark about everything.

    And if you do that, so they are really uninformed and ignorant, then they'll be Republican voters.

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    Democracy doesn't mean much to the two main parties.

    I think Sanders could have more delegates and lose. Politburo. All along the Party has teed it up for her while putting obstacles in Sanders' way. Hiliar "dominating" the delegate count, "Sanders needs to win 80% of the remaining delegate" and so on.

    Sanders has won 8 of the last 9 primaries/caucuses. Hiliar isn't winning anything lately. In Wyoming, Sanders beat her 56% to 44%, yet they split the 14 delegates - 7 apiece. That's democratic?
     
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    Well according to Hillary the people voting for Sanders are ignorant, uninformed, and don't do their own research.
    Super delegates shouldn't exist anymore, she had over half before anyone was allowed to vote.
    Which from the start meant the media said. "Hillary's lead is insurmountable."
    Some of them aren't following the people in their state they were elected to represent. They should in a Democracy follow the will of the people they represent in their state. They have their own personal vote to cast for the candidate of their choice.
    One can only assume they believe anyone not falling in line is ignorant and uninformed.

    BTW isn't the state count now 15 - Sanders, 14 - Hillary?
     
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    Technically, no. If he loses, he will by definition have fewer delegates, since it is a vote of delegates that chooses the winner.
    And realistically, no. He's not going to have more delegates in any real sense, unless you think his delegates should count double or something.

    What part of math do you not get?

    The rules are the rules, and were set out in advance, and Bernie's campaign presumably knows them, or should.

    I think your protests on Bernie's behalf are a lot like Trump's protests of "I was ignorant of the rules, so it's unfair!"

    In Trump's case, he's been wanting to run for president for 20 years or more, so he had plenty of time to study up on the rules.

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    The media said right from the start that Jeb! had so much money that he couldn't possibly lose.

    No, it's something more like Hillary 20, Bernie 17. Depending on what you count as a state, of course. If you throw out things that aren't actually states, it's Hillary 18, Bernie 16.

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    Barfo, are you a Hillary supporter? Or do you just play one on the internet.
     
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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/a-contested-democratic-convention_b_9672328.html

    You think wrong. SMH.

    For the nominations and presidential election, I want the voters' will to be executed. Not the parties' will. You defend the parties, SMH.
     
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    He likes her constantly changing positions on the issues.
     
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    To be fair, Hillary has shitloads more votes than Bernie so far right? I mean, as much as it embarrasses the rest of the country, the deep south is still in America.

    Unfortunately. Maybe they can secede again.
     
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    Hmmm... So you're saying we should build the wall but not along the US/Mexico border.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I support both Hillary and Bernie.

    It happens that Hillary is going to be the nominee, and Bernie isn't. That's just reality, unless Denny's little fantasies come true.

    barfo
     
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