How is everyone's paycheck looking?

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  1. MARIS61

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    Tax rate for that income level used to be 91% back in the 60's, so any complaints about today's rates for the rich are childishly ludicrous.
     
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    The Medicare "increase" (return to previous norms) is .9% and only affects the portion of your income that is over $200,000 yr.

    $86 Billion: Hike in Medicare Payroll Tax (Takes effect Jan. 2013): Current law and changes:

    Current Law

    First $200,000
    ($250,000 Married)
    Employer/Employee

    1.45%/1.45%
    2.9% self-employed

    All Remaining Wages
    Employer/Employee

    1.45%/1.45%
    2.9% self-employed

    Obamacare Tax Hike

    First $200,000
    ($250,000 Married)
    Employer/Employee

    1.45%/1.45%
    2.9% self-employed

    1.45%/2.35%
    3.8% self-employed
     
  3. blazerboy30

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    This is a childishly ludicrous argument because you're ignoring the crazy levels of deductions that have accompanied those high tax rates. Not to mention that $200k today is SLIGHTLY different than $200k in the 60's.

    Learn a little, then post.
     
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    Nobody paid 91% due to real estate scams (among others). Not even close to 91%. In fact, the rich paid $0 because of depreciation expenses. But you know better.
     
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    MARIS, your numbers look legit, but how does moving a small portion (about 3% or so) of taxpayers .9% upward on their income over 200k get $86B? Is that a 10-year projection or something? And would you concur that even if the 86B is correct (and it's per year) that it's still only paying 10% of the Medicare/caid overruns?
     
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    LOL at the .9% increase. Looks like a 62% increase to me. .9 / 1.45.
     
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    That's 'cause you're one of those glass-is-half-empty kind of guys.

    It's .9% of the portion of your income that is over $200,000 yr. So $900 extra this year if you make $300,000.
     
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    And before you paid $1450 and now you pay $2350. That $900 jump is a 62% in what you pay.
     
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    oh, and denial
     
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    You're really gonna treat me like this on my birthday?
     
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    Happy birthday!!!!!!
     
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    $89 less ever 2 weeks. bleh... I hadn't even noticed. WTF
     
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    Here's a great post about the topic from another message board I attend.

     
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  16. Denny Crane

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    I don't know about that graphic. I would expect someone making $230K to have way more than $35K in deductions. Like a mortgage payment of $10K/mo.
     
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    You think it's a great post because it agrees with what you already believed... and both are false / misleading. We've talked about the so-called 94% tax bracket before and it is meaningless without discussing the deductions that were available at the time.
     

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