How long of a leash should Chauncey have?

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Rastapopoulos, Oct 14, 2023.

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What should we do with Chauncey?

  1. Fire him - even young players deserve a good coach

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  2. He should be on a short leash - if we look like we're not progressing, he should go in season

    31 vote(s)
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  3. The worse we are the better - let's re-evaluate next Summer

    15 vote(s)
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  4. He's a good coach! Prove he isn't!

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  1. inconceivable

    inconceivable Well-Known Member

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    If the Blazers get less than 20 wins, fire Chauncey.
     
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  2. Samuel

    Samuel James “Hollywood” Robinson

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    This team is going to lose a lot of games either way. The question is whether the team is picking up good defensive habits, is developing good chemistry on the court, and whether Chauncey seems to be able to create and implement philosophy.

    The last two years were a bit of a mess and Chauncey had to improvise in both seasons; in his first year he had to simplify his schemes so that he could properly teach them (early on it sounded like the players felt his plays were too complicated). In his second year he was using Dame off-ball more and the team was miserable at protecting the ball so it had to shift to a more classic Dame spamming PnR. Before the injuries kicked in it 'did' seem like the team was starting to hold the line defensively a tick better. When Nurk/Winslow started to miss time the rest of the group got flattened and that was that.

    I think Ayton (and RW3 depending on if he's with the team all year—sounds like he might be?) will be massive inflection points for Chauncey—these are two starting level bigs and when they're healthy it'll be up to him to get the most out of them. They're both entering their primes and have played on winners—this isn't quite as much of a developmental situation with them. I've read that RW3's defensive success can be situational depending on matchups and scheme; he's not a big that will thrive in every type of scheme and matchup.

    Will Chauncey's scheme make sense with Ayton defensively? Can Chauncey get Ayton going in the PnR? We'll see.

    I think Chauncey will get more leniency with the guards since they're younger.

    There's a tendency in these types of yakity sax situations to heavily rely on ISO performers like Ant and Grant. With so much in flux this year that's going to happen, full stop—but I hope that with the starters the ball moves around since there are a handful of mouths to feed in Ayton/Grant/Ant.
     
  3. ant

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    If we replace Billups in season, are there any available head coaches or top up-and-coming assistants that would be a good fit for our young rebuild? I would love to have someone in place earlier than later to guide our rebuild. Bill ups should be an assistant somewhere, not a head coach.
     
  4. wizenheimer

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    I'm not sure how many top coaches want to go to a team that could be a lottery team for a number of years

    if Scoot and Sharpe are having struggles and inconsistency while Ant is bombing away; if the cadre of young forwards offers some promise, but is wildly inconsistent; if Ayton is mercurial with big swings in impact; if Robert Williams continues his injury trajectory; if Grant comes back to earth in his 3 point shooting while rebounding poorly; if Brogdon is just looking like eventual trade bait and Thybulle is just looking like he always has....

    and most of those things are probable. It's going to be a long climb out of the cellar. A lot of coaches won't want to get on that ladder. More likely have to be a younger first time coach willing to take a chance
     
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  5. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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  6. GrandpaBlaze

    GrandpaBlaze Predictions Game Master

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    How tight can we tighten the collar?
     
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    We look uncoached.
     
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    It probably needs to be fairly short because I don't want all of these young players developing early bad habits.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Yep, this is my concern. I'm starting to think he's worse than I imagined.
     
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    Billups production has been in a line with what I would expect of a coach who got a head coaching job with only one year of assistant coaching experience.
     
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    True. Those guys don't generally build dynasties.
     
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    I believe Billups will be let go in early-mid 2025.
     
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    why bump this? its one game with a whole new squad and against a good defensive team.
     
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    We look like what we are, the youngest team in the NBA, with a rookie 19 year old PG, all new faces to the team and against a good defensive team.

    Newsflash, Popovich wouldn't be able to make this team look good.
     
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  15. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    And last years excuse? The year before?
     
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    the year before? where we had a team that Neil put today, Dame not 100% and shut down early for the season with surgery and us trading and breaking up the team? Last year, we started hot and fizzled, once Winslow went out it was all down hill. Newsflash, we didn't have a good team the last two seasons, and the same is said for this season.

    Maybe you guys need to come to grips that this team just isnt good and overrating players.

    Why did the Spurs, with the best or one of the top coaches in NBA history have a worse record than us last season? LMAO!

    Or why did the Spurs have a losing record the last 3 seasons with Hall of fame coach?

    Please answer me those last two questions.
     
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    I don't mind the Blazers not being good. They are not expected to be good right now.

    What I DO mind is that they look absolutely disorganized. They look like they are playing pickup basketball, not organized, structured, coached ball.

    After the past two years (where we saw much of the same) and the preseason and yes, only one game into this season, I've largely given up hope for having a good team as long as Billups is the "coach".

    If we played bad but looked like we knew what we were trying to do, that is one thing, but to look so discombobulated after training camp and preseason is flat out wrong.

    Stotts may not have been the best coach but he often tended to get the most out of his people. Billups, not so much.
     
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    This offseason is the time to replace him. Let him coach the tank this year and then find a master tactician like Snyder or Dagnal. We need to implement a system and Chauncey doesn’t seem like he has the strategic chops to make quick tactical moves, adjustments, tricks on the fly, etc.
     
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    Robert Williams and Ayton combined for 19 boards in 46 minutes, 6 steals 2 blocks.. pretty good for 2 new players trying to assimilate with a new PG who was dreadful for most of the game.. n also considering Aytons foul situation..


    To me I think its very fair to ask if this is a personnel situation..


    cuz thats what I think... the personnel is strong in some spots but frankly the forward position needs a major injection of talent..

    like do u think all the best coaches in the world waiting for a great nba job want to coach up matisse thybulle and jerami grant vs kahwi leonard and paul george???
     
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    If I was being told im a bad coach cuz my team lost n i had matisse thybulle n jerami grant as my starting forwards n the other team had kahwi leonard n paul george --- and I have a rookie point guard starting n the other team has former mvp russell westbrook..

    id quit..and laugh in your face..

    "find someone else!" cuz ur gonna complain about them too, cuz their job is far more difficult than your making it out to be..

    its not that chauncey is bad at his job.. its more a matter of your lack of comprehension about how hes supposed to be judged..

    people wanna squeeze blood from a stone around here
     
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