How to keep Kanter?

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  1. kjironman1

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    Well I will stay with my opinion about Leonard defense and you can have yours.
     
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    Wouldn't even need to clear cap space. If he signed a 1-year MLE deal, we could then use the early-bird exception to re-sign him the next summer to 43M/4y if so inclined.
     
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    Pray he takes the tax MLE. If he keeps playing like he has though he’s going to price himself out of Portland. He’s only 26. If he does, I wouldn’t mind signing Rolo. He’d be a solid starter until Nurk came back. The center market isn’t great though, so who knows, maybe we can bring Kanter back.
     
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    As I understand it, unless they can move off Turner's or Leonard's contracts in a trade that brings back less salary, just re-signing anyone will take them over the luxury tax line. So they wouldn't have the full MLE for Kanter, just the tax-payer's MLE. I think his value exceeds the mini-MLE by a fair amount.
     
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    He is a prime candidate for a 1 year & 1 year Player Option until teams caps open up again, since this summer teams don't have much cash to hold. There might be some situations where renouncing makes sense, and if the Knicks take on some salary from teams there could be cascading effects.
     
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    Agree about Rolo.

    What do you mean by center market? From the player's perspective or teams'?

    Here are some of the big men available this summer:
    - Cousins
    - Vucevic
    - Horford
    -Marc Gasol
    - B. Lopez
    - R. Lopez
    - DeAndre
    - Ed Davis
    - Javale
    - Mirotic
    - Millsap
    -Taj Gibson
    - Faried

    This is just unrestricted guys. There's a few more who will be restricted (Porzingis/Cauley-Stein/ Portis) and others who haven't yet exercised opt outs (Randle, Valanciunas, etc). I'd say nearly every single guy on that list above will get paid more than Kanter this summer. If Kanter gets a full non-tax payer MLE, fine, we'll find a ridiculously good bargain elsewhere.
     
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    I meant there aren’t too many teams with a need at center and money to spend.
     
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    What? You think teams value McGee, Gibson, Faried above Kanter? I sincerely doubt that. A lot, for Kanter, will depend on how this series goes. If he shows that his defense isn't so bad that he's "Can't Play Kanter" in the playoffs, he'll be much more valuable. He's always been a very good scorer and rebounder--there was just a sense that he'd kill a team too much on defense. If that proves to be overstated--if Stotts is right that Kanter's reputation is no longer accurate about his defense--his value will jump. And I'd say game 1 worked in his favor quite a bit, not just his stat line but being capable enough on defense.
     
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    I said nearly everyone on that list, not all. But the ones outside of whom you mentioned will get offered more.

    Kanter is playing well, but that still doesn't take away from my original point that the center supply will far increase the demand this summer.
     
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    I see Neil offering short term deals to Curry and Kanter with a promise of a bump down the road and better contracts when some salary is shed
     
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    Yes, I was basing my figures on tax MLE this year. My apologies for not specifying; I just assumed it was understood.
     
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    Last off-season, they would. As I said, this off-season, it's awfully variable depending on how Kanter shows in the playoffs. Nurkic getting injured could be a double-blow for Portland, because if Kanter plays only below-average-but-still-usable defense and showcases his scoring and rebounding ability, I think he jumps past a lot of players on that list. He's still young-prime--with playable defense, he's basically Valanciunas, whom I think would draw a lot of interest on the open market.
     
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    I see Kanter leaving for big contract and Neil resigning Ed.
     
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    Still gonna wait to see how this all plays out. One game doesn't take away from the last few weeks of evidence we have about Enes' bad defense. Nearly every metric points him to be a massive weak link for our defense.

    I feel like OKC is a very favorable matchup to hide his defensive deficiencies. They tried to force feed the P&R with Russ/Adams yesterday. It was effective, but not nearly as bad for us as it could be since Enes could just hang way back at the rim and contest there. Were it run by a guy who's actually a threat to shoot from outside, I'm sure Kanter's issues would be magnified. This is one adjustment I'm anticipating-- them letting PG initiate the P&R instead of Russ.
     
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    In the words of Neil..."We want guys here that want to be here"...….hello Enes Kanter, Rodney Hood ….Seth Curry in my view might want a bigger role on a bottom feeding team.
     
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    I thought about this too but Kanter gives the bench some offensive punch Ed doesn't add....Zach has Ed's job now
     
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    That's a fair point, but there are ways to manage that, like hedging or pre-switching screens. Golden State does a lot of pre-switching to prevent Curry getting isolated on much larger/stronger players, like LeBron James.
     
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    In the works of Enes after game one..."I looked at myself in the mirror yesterday and said, ‘I should feel very blessed to be with this team and this organization.’ It means a lot because this one of the classiest and one of the best organizations I’ve ever been a part of."
     
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