Politics Huge California Water Supplier Slashes Summer Deliveries

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    Maybe you should.

     
  2. Denny Crane

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    That's a statement of fact, not a statement about the cause of any problems.

    There's plenty of water for the people. The orchards are irrelevant, other than government was willing to get them water but won't for homes.

    Read the rest.
     
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    I don't really care. California sucks. I just like watching you flail.
     
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    I'm not flailing. You're failing!

    And barfo was just wrong about everything.
     
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    True, development stopped and many existing reservoir pose a threat now, to a population that didn't exist when they were built. But the dams could be fixed.

    The real problem is leadership. Back when the dams were constructed the farmers were Republicans, the state was republican but not now. That toggled rather rapidly over the past 30 years.
    "Urban planners" are a new breed of democrat claricy. I don't know if it will ever occur to that crowd to build reservoirs in the mountains. Much easier to blame Global Goblins and lay a tax on
    the goblin foot print. That will raise money to help the large underclass pay for the high priced water.
    Screw the farmers, they are the uneducated problem.
     
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    If California weren't so awesome, I'd be working for Nike in Portland. I turned them down a couple of times. I'd much rather live here.

    Portland would be my 2nd choice, though. On the mainland...
     
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    Even with all the new people, agriculture uses 80% of the water. The more orchards you replace with homes, the less water you need. But government simply failed. The list of new reservoirs is damning.
     
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    I worked in La Jolla about 3 months once. Dang that was nice. We lived in Los Altos at the time, but it was summer time so I brought the kids down while I worked there.
    Temporary though darn it.
     
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    I live near La Jolla. I could walk there. A long walk, though.
     
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    Well those republican farmers knew they needed water and they knew how to act in consort, put together a bond issue and build what they needed. The rabble moving into the promised land don't know much and the Urban planners can't see that far. Hell, look around you! Who the hell is pushing for a real fix? Damned if these fools don't think they can fix stuff like this with a carbon tax.

    Sorry Denny, California is fucked. But take heart, it just the first of more to follow.
     
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    I really wish they'd fill the potholes and put up more street lights.

    If California is fucked, so is the rest of the country. The state's GDP is bigger than all countries in the world but 7.

    If you eat nuts or vegetables, most likely they were grown here. 98.5% of all tomatoes eaten in the U.S. are grown here. Peaches. Olives. Grapes. Garlic. The list is quite long.
     
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    True true. Then I see Jerry Brown with a tax here and another there. Water rationing and then some more. No Fixes though.
     
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    Gee, why did they stop "water resource development"?

    The answer is that "certain people" don't like to pay taxes.

    barfo
     
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    As a new Libertarian, I don't believe in leadership. The natural order is the way California was before the politicians invaded. That's right, no reservoirs. No water.

    Kick out the Mexicans! No public school for those kids. Keep them picking where they belong. Maybe rich Republicans will volunteer to replace them in the fields.
     
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    Because the state is overrun by tree huggers.

    Like I said, you couldn't be more wrong.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_State_Water_Project

    In 1980, the North Coast rivers were incorporated into the National Wild and Scenic Rivers system, effectively eliminating the possibility of any projects to divert them

    With its large storage capacity, Sites Reservoir would increase the production and flexibility of California's water management system, yielding 470,000 to 640,000 acre·ft (0.58 to 0.79 km3) of new water per year.[57] This project is being seriously considered by the Department of Water Resources, as California's water system is expected to face serious shortfalls of 2 million acre feet (2.5 km3) per year by 2020.[58] However, the project has been criticized for its high cost, and potential disruption of fish migration when large amounts of water are drawn from the Sacramento River during the wet season.

    Stage II, which includes such works as the Peripheral Canal and Sites Reservoir, was to have been built beginning in the late 1970s and 1980s – but due to concerted opposition from Northern Californians, environmentalist groups and some economic interests, as well as the state's increasing debt, attempts to begin construction have all met with failure.
     
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    I'm fine with Mexicans and people of every other ethnicity. I'm for an open border in both directions, not building walls to keep you in.
     
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    Well you are winning Denny, it's going just as you like. About 13 million have come from south of the boarder since the last reservoir was built. More on the way if Jerry Brown can find enough
    money to serve them well. Between that funds sponge and the environmental freaks, California has all the reservoirs that it ever will have. Heck, they have been trying to take them out, return
    all the streams to the natural state. Hetch Hetchy is their dream target, the tree hungers wet dream to be dried out.

    I find all these competing ignorant interest amusing as hell, especially now that they are blaming lack of water on Global Climate Change and their answer more tax but no engineering.
     
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    Almost all the immigrants i know work for a living and work hard. They pay taxes. They're good people.

    Since they pay taxes, I have no beef with them getting some benefits in return.

    All the people combined here use 20% of the water or less.
     

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