Hunter: "Maybe we can start our own league"

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  1. BigVolcano

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    Exactly. Obviously Lebron and co still have endorsement money and such, but the average players and minimum vets (the majority) have no where close to the resources that owners have.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    I'm thinking of a league with new owners, and not the players owning it. I think Hunter meant that when he said, maybe "we" can start a new league.
     
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    Hey Billy, I know where there are thirty rich owners and thirty arenas in thirty major cities right here in the good ol USA. Great way to start over, don't ya think?
     
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    I understand there is not much to talk about with no actual basketball, but this conversation is way out there in fantasy land.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Congratulations upon your entrance to the universe of sports fandom!

    As of this moment, commence being a dreamer!
     
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    This would just prove that it truly is more about pride than it is money. The players would be losing a lot of dough.
     
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  7. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    So would the owners. Why are you pro-owners conscious of negative consequences only for the players?
     
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    The owners lost hundreds of millions of dollars last year when the league was operating... they already HAVE negative consequences.

    The players, on the other hand, are used to making money. When they don't do so it will logically be a bigger blow to them.

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    HCP, been recommending the Simmons book as well. Love it!

    Good luck to Hunter starting a new league that will compensate players better than the NBA. No way they start 30 franchises with any sort of fan following overnight. He should note that while the Timbers just announced they sold out of the 14k season seats they alotted, the entire team payroll is less than the average of one NBA player.

    What other business has he launched?
     
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    Hilarious. I'm just speechless at the absurdity, the ignorance and the delusion necessary for the players to think they can just show up in a gym, play basketball, and get paid, let alone do better than what the NBA has offered them. These morons would lose every dime they have and be washed up has-beens, just in time for the entire venture to go bankrupt. That is, if they could even get that kind of organizational complexity off the ground. Hilarious.
     
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  11. gatorpops

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    What the NBA needs is a government bailout on the scale of Solindra. That would fix all. Let the players and owners lobby for such.
     
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    half a billion dollars wouldn't help much.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Their own separate league huh? Do they plan to rent out high-school gymnasiums? Tournaments at the 'Y'? Awesome.

    I know it's probably because I'm a cynical bastard, but part of me hopes both the owners and players crater in spectacular fashion because of this idiotic standoff. There'd be nothing funnier than if when the lockout finally lifts next year (or whenever) that these guys damaged revenue so badly that max contracts dropped 500% and courtside seats were only worth about 30 bucks.
     
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    Dope! Season tickets courtside for $1,200!
     
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    I'm hoping for the same thing, and in fact I bought a piggy bank today so I can start saving up my 30 bucks by then.
     
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    Well, the players themselves certainly couldn't do it. However, you can hire that sort of talent. I don't think it is outrageous to think about, if the players are willing to accept a different sort of deal just to screw the NBA. For example, you might cut them in as partners - they get a share of the profits, rather than a salary. If they accept this, then you can get through the first few years ok. If I had a few billion dollars that I wasn't using, I'd think about deploying it here. There's a $4B revenue stream that is available for the taking.

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    Player-owners would need seasoned owners to mediate between them, just as they need referees. Players might own 10-20% of the new league, but as I said,

     
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    They would be getting a share of revenues (better than of profits) from the NBA... why would it be better to have their own league? To get equity?

    What would stop them from being just like Michael Jordan (i.e., hardline ownership) after they retired and were just owners, rather than owner-players?

    Why would future players be better off playing for them than for the current owners?

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    Yes, to get equity. Having a lifetime revenue stream might seem more appealing than a 5-year revenue stream.

    Nothing, but who cares? That's a problem for future players, not for current players.

    They wouldn't, if the two leagues both exist. However, I'm suggesting that it's possible to actually kill the NBA right now with a focused, well-financed attack.

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    1. To have a say in policies that should have been instituted long ago, like profit-sharing among owners. Now, no more surprises about plastic balls or dress codes. They'd get a minority vote in management decisions.

    2. Nothing.

    3. Players would get a share of voting and profits only as long as they were players.
     
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