which is what this team needs. We allow a lot of layups, particularly with this terrible lineup that Nate had in at one point: Sergo/Rudy/Outlaw/Frye/Przy... That lineup should never happen. Ever. That's the "lets funnel everybody to Joel, including every off-ball member of the opposing team, allowing them to crash the boards and thus score many second chance points" crew. Our help D, overall, needs help.
I like to compare Oden to this super player that I call Super Center, which is a combination of Shaquille O'neal, Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell, Tim Duncan, and David Robinson.
I like to compare him to the chinese food I ate tonight: IT WAS DELICIOUS. This makes no sense but yet it does..
It's not fair to compare him to a 350# guy who generally only played on crappy teams, is almost 70 years old, doesn't have a personality and spent his first two years after school not even caring about the NBA. oh yeah, and who has almost 25 rings.
swear to god just wait till 3/4ths the season or more is done if he still sucks THEN worry..... oden will get his handle on things.... untill then just be patient, a lot of you guys act like he should just touch the ball and it be gold. REMEMBER. hes 20, this is his rookie season, he just came off of a MAJOR surgery, and hes 20. just because he looks like a god damn 30 year old man child veteran doesnt mean hes actually one.... give him some god damn time and if he still "sucks" 3/4 the way through then you can complain with meaning until then the shit you say now doesnt mean shit. and for all of the double doubles hes had a few off games isnt going to kill anyone even though we lost today
We'll trade you guys Tyrus Thomas for Rudy Fernandez. That way the Blazers will have a living example of what a bust is, a daily reminder to motivate Oden every day!
I'm not worried about Greg yet. Barkley was right.. he's played one year of real ball (at Ohio State), he's only 20, and he's not going to dominate the NBA right away. He just looks like a rookie who hasn't played in awhile and is coming off big surgery, and has a big load on his shoulders.
Barkley also said that he would take Andrew Bynum over Greg Oden for the future on Colin Cowherd's show.
Barkley also said Oden would never be a great offensive player. Perhaps we all have too high of expectations for Oden?
Too high? Possibly. But I don't think anyone expected Duncan, Shaq, Kareem, Hakeem, and a top 10 all-time scorer. Greg's hook shot has looked a lot better since his first game, he's just not getting enough chances to showcase what he has. I don't think Greg will ever be a 20-25 ppg scorer. But he will be a 10-14 rpg, and 3.0 bpg kind of player, to go along with 17-20 ppg.
He will never be a great offensive player in terms of post-moves. He could get far more points than he has if the team passed to him on the pick and roll because he's been able to get late calls on those and go to the line for an and one.
I expect more Bill Russell with his biggest impact on the defensive end, and an adequate threat on the block to score on occasion. So yes, he can still be an all-time elite level NBA center.
Oden has to average 22.5 rpg over his entire career to play on Russell's level. Russell actually grabbed 51 rebounds in a single game once.
