meh, i dobt really care one way or another lillard or waiters...both seem about 75% chance to be....meh
What are your reason's for not liking Lillard? The guy has probably created more positive buzz among those covering the draft festivities than any other prospect in the draft right now.
It's not about taking a small school guy every year. It's about identifying who the best player is every year no matter the competition. I would guess that if you looked at the Spurs boards of the past they wouldn't have guys like Drummond in the top 10. Guys like Tony Parker and Manu Ginobli were higher then people that were selected before them I would think.
You can't compare what Lillard did outside the BigSky to what Steph Curry, a player a lot of you love to compare Lillard to, did in his last two years at Davidson: Oklahoma: 44 pts (L 78-82) Duke: 29 pts (L 67-79) Wisconsin: 33 pts (W 73-56) Gonzaga: 40 pts (W 82-76) Duke: 20 pts (L 73-79) North Carolina: 24 pts (L 68-72) A sample of what he showed scouts. He kept his team with mediocre talent in games against the likes of Duke and NC.
1. Old. 2. Small (unless he's a PG, and even then not very good size). 3. Shoot-first (bad for a PG, in my opinion). 4. Low level of competition. 5. Seems to be a pre-draft hype mirage. (Where would he have gone last year? What has changed?) 6. There are six prospects that I think are clearly better bets. The team needs talent and they shouldn't be taking a player like Lillard at #6, I don't think. Ed O.
Basically, with your draft strategy you would draft Uwe Blab, Bill Wennington, and Blair Rasmussen ahead of Joe Dumars every time. After all, there is "less uncertainty" with those players than with a small college guy. Quality of competition should definitely be taken into account, but it alone shouldn't rule one out from being a high pick. Since most everyone is really just externalizing their feelings, I'll follow suit. I have a bad feeling that we will not draft Lillard but end up wishing we did.
Fair enough. My only concern that I think is valid is that he's shoot first. What are the 6 players you'd rather take ahead of him?
You're entirely missing the point. Sorry. If you're going to tell me that my draft strategy would result in that... I dunno what to tell you. Ed O.
Everybody seems to agree that there is an obvious top 6 players in the draft and Lillard is not one of them. I don't care who out of those top six is left, you take them over Lillard. I don't care if the guy left over is Harrison Barnes and fans are tearing their hair out because they think he and Batum are the same player. You still take him because he's the better player.
no big deal. Like I said in a new thread, I'll be happy with any one of 7 players with the #6. It's OK if Lillard isn't in your top 7.
Pretty much this. I like Lillard and wouldn't mind trading up from our 11th to get him (although I like Marshal more) but at 6 I just hate the idea of passing on any of the players that fall to us.
I'm not convinced Drummond will be better than Lillard. His mental makeup from just watching him interview is pretty sketchy. Good NBA players are sure of themselves. He doesn't look sure of himself. Between Barnes and Lillard I can go either way. I just have a hunch that Barnes will be nothing more than Marvin Williams. I think Lillard can be Westbrook like, in the ability to break down defenses. Creating shots off the dribble is soooo important in today's NBA.
I think there is a consensus among fans that there is a top 6 but I don't think every single team sees it the same way.
FWIW: Hollinger has some things to say in light of his draft-rater being released: http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/page/PERDiem-120618/nba-2012-nba-draft-rater Can't wait ...
It is a numbers analysis. And Hollinger doesn't outright say "he looks more like a mid-tolate first-rounder" he says it with respect to this metric of analysis. Which anyone would be stupid to disagree with. Numbers are just that though, numbers. While I don't really have a high view of the Blazers management's ability to scout players, I do think it's important to view things in context.
What criteria is used in his rankings. Because it seems there is a lot of weight on what conference you come from. Lillard had very good #'s so what is throwing it down so far. Also as far as age Brandon was a senior when he came out. If he would have come out sooner I don't think he would of had the same skill level. Sometimes staying a few extra years helps more then jumping directly into the NBA.
