I don't think we'll drop Brandon Roy

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  1. Blazinaway

    Blazinaway Well-Known Member

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    I know, can't believe someone in here is really questioning whether he is bone on bone when both ROY and his Dr Roberts say it and it has never been denied. LOL
     
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    Fair enough, that's the part I missed, thanks for the finding.

    However, I will say that arthritic knee implies a variety of conditions. I don't doubt there is a huge problem in there, but it's Roy saying it's bone-on-bone, not Roberts. In the Oregonian article it was Roy giving second hand information from Roberts. If it was truly bone-on-bone, how could he walk or run at all? Arthritic knee doesn't automatically equal no meniscus. I realize this is all very pedantic, but I can't imagine he could play rec league basketball if it was truly zero meniscus, actual bone-on-bone.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2010/11/blazers_insider_no_surgery_for.html
     
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    It's a little different, but DeJuan Blair has no ACL's in either knee
     
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    ...and DeJuan Blair went from a "steal" to completely out of the Spurs rotation in the playoffs.
     
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    In the Oregonian article, Roy says that Roberts called it arthritic knee. Roy says it's bone-on-bone, no meniscus. Not Roberts, Roy. That is not the same as Roberts saying it. I'm fully admitting I forgot about the article, and maybe the lockout blinded me a bit. But we're basing this all on an article where Roy explains he condition, not the actual doctor...just sayin'.
     
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    Have there been any players who have played bone on bone?

    I found this: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1018409/index.htm

     
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    because there is another kind of cartilage on the knee called "articular" that covers the bone ends, that can get worn down as well and not having any meniscus cartilage only accelerates the "articular" degeneration. Roy for a while was able to play effectively without his meniscus cartilage but now his "last line" of defense is being worn out and it becomes true bone on bone and there is no escape from that - the more he plays the worse it will get. Why do I know so much about this? - I'm over 50 with 3 knee surgeries and considering a knee replacement because one of my knees is bone on bone, so I have researched the crap out of it.
     
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    And this: http://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/kobe_bryant_i_have_almost_no_cartilage_in_my_knee/3923441

     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    That's my thought. I think the key with Roy isn't that the Blazers are stuck in a situation of having to do it right now for financial reasons or if they don't do it now they lose it, it's that the Blazers have to think about fielding a competitive lineup. I'm not sure I agree with Crawford being the player they would want to add (though it's not a bad ide) but this team is woefully thin on the front line outside of Aldridge and big men don't come cheaply; they're going to need that 5 million "under-the-cap" mid-level exception.

    Secondly, Roy in the lineup is going to gum up the wing rotation, with his salary and his prior role there's a ton of pressure to give him lots of minutes regardless of production and the more minutes and touches he gets the less time you spend seeing if Nic's newfound aggressiveness in Euroleague play is real or just a flash in the pan.

    I won't claim to know what this GM-less team will do with Bert Kolde, Larry Miller and Nate likely making the personnel decisions, but if they have an ounce of long-range vision they need to amnesty him now and commit to re-tooling this roster.
     
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    +1, well said
     
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    Several back to back to back's


    How will Roy do then?
     
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    But who in the hell currently working for the Blazers in a position of power is going to take the heat for sending Brandon Roy to the Lakers?

    Anybody?

    Only Paul Allen can make that call.

    And even then, he might fire Miller or whomever, after Roy drops 30 on us in purple and piss in the rose garden.

    "Larry, you should have talked me out of it. Get the fuck out!"
     
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    How I view the current situation.

    Is this current roster a top 8 seed in the west? Is playoffs the goal?Is 2nd rd a goal?

    If the Blazers answer yes, then they will roll the dice on roy.

    If no, then they will likely waive him before season begins.
     
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    This is definitely a top 8 team. If Oden comes back healthy then we'll contend for the title.
     
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    who gives a flyin F, PA and Vulcan seem to be making the calls anyway, given the significance of this one (Roy) I am sure they would make the call whether or not we had a GM
     
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    Oden? A year after MF he's not even cleared for basketball activities, counting on Oden is like counting on Obama to cut spending
     
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    Unless Roy turns himself into a better off the ball player I don't see him having a great impact for another team. He'd most likely struggle a lot trying to find a role as a role player.

    Also remember, he's most likely to get/feel worse the more he plays.S o in theory the longer he plays, it's less likely he'll provide a big impact.

    Roy at best will have 1 really good game for every 5-6 games he plays on a different team imo.
     
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