I don't think we'll drop Brandon Roy

Hail, I am 100% a Roy supporter and fan. I would love nothing better to have him stay a Blazer for the rest of his career. Problem is the amount of money and his inability to perform to that contract. Knowing that the new CBA won't support bad contracts like this; which is why he will probably be released, regardless... It really sucks being a Roy fan; but I suspect it going to happen.

 

That doesn't happen with the Brandon Roy we expect we'll get. Nor does that happen with the Greg Oden we expect (not) to get. That happens if Roy somehow finds his place, and stays consistent (and consistently good). That happens if Greg Oden dominates as a starter, plays more than 24 minutes a game, averages less than 3 fouls a game, etc. All this while LMA averages 25/12.

Basically, winning the WCF is the symptom of a condition that requires a bunch of things to happen. If those things happen, you bet we'll move heaven and earth to make it happen again next year. And if it falls apart then, Roy's gone the next summer.

If anyone on the team has the amnesty rule used on them it's Roy. The only way he can avoid being cut in this manner is to play like he's worth the money.

 

This is the smartest and safest stategy. If Paul decides to wait a year, why not? It's his money. It's better to make sure he is done rather than assume he is.

 

or we go the other way, start him and play him a lot, either his knees hold up or perhaps it gets bad enough he considers medically retiring? I mean how much can he sit out saying his knees hurt when there is nothing medically that can be done? This may be harsh but it's also fair since he is getting paid 15 mil this yr to play ball. Medical retirement would be a big plus for the team and allow us more of a gamble on Oden.

and if he plays well and holds up then we have gained something, either way he's getting paid big bucks to play

 

Maybe Roy needs to follow Kobe to Europe and try the latest in blood-related knee therapy, see this link

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/sto...ly-involved-cutting-edge-procedure-in-germany

there is also stem-cell knee therapy that apparently is having some good results

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/GMAHea...itis-pain-offer-alternative/story?id=13550160

 

If only a few teams are interested in using the amnesty clause, as reported earlier in this thread, why is it in the new contract? Who pushed for it? Did Paul Allen push for it? If he did, why did he, if not to use it on Brandon (who is widely considered the most amnesty worthy player in the league)?

Obviously none of us know whether Brandon has had a miraculous recovery this off-season, compared to his previous two seasons of overall futility. If not, then this grueling upcoming schedule in which the owners are attempting to maximize their revenue can only be expected to wear Brandon down moreso than last season -- which wasn't pretty. The worst part to me wasn't how his production diminished as his playing increased, it wasn't how he disrupted chemistry and took his teammates out of their games, it was his complete lack of defensive ability -- it was like playing 4 on 5.

Question (I apologize if it's been posted and I missed it): If Brandon is amnestied, and another team pays him, let's say, $5 mill, does that $5 mill come off our salary for cap purposes?

Thanks.

 

The more I think of Brandon changing his game to compensate for his lack of cartilege and mobility, the more doubtful I become. Didn't Brandon taylor his slow, change of pace, ball control game to compensate for his bad knees in the first place? Running around and cutting like Rudy has to be out of the question. The only hope is if he is willing to be Nate's designated stand in the corner to shoot the ocassional three pointer guy, and Nate is willing to put him in that role. Otherwise, I could see saving him for the last 5 minutes of every game and letting him do his thing.

 

Brandon's full salary will come off of our cap and luxry tax, so if another team were to sign him for 5 million, all it does is save Paul Allen money, as it would come off of the money HE has to pay Brandon.

 

BBert, my understanding is that the player's entire contract comes off the books for salary cap purposes if you use the amnesty clause. You still have to pay him, but it doesn't count against the cap.

 

please keep in my mind that the following is from canzano....

The whisper at One Center Court is that Trail Blazers owner Paul Allen won't bother to take one last look at Brandon Roy before he goes amnesty clause on the guy who won all those games for him.

Here's hoping Allen does. And that the longest look is into Roy's eyes.

"Brandon's out," a league executive told me Monday. "Don't know the exact details, but everyone around the league knows it's way, way done. Paul and Bert (Kolde) are calling the shots on this one."

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/or...sf/2011/11/canzano_blazers_appear_set_to.html

 

Thanks, guys. My brain seems to be malfunctioning today. I hope my employer doesn't amnesty me.

 

Bit of a reality check.

Roy sat out Jan and most of Feb to rest his knees. In the month of March, he shot 50-120. In April, he was down to 13-40. No legs! On the season, he shot 40% and was a liability on defense.

 

I fully expect this. We'll know soon, won't we.

 

Don't forget all the drives to hoop where he threw the ball at the underside of the rim because of his inability to leap. That was brutal to watch.

 

JohnCanzanoBFT John Canzano
There's a faction of the franchise that would like to bring Roy into camp, and get a longer look. Hoping that faction gets Allen's ear.
25 minutes ago

 

I briefly read through Larry Coon's breakdown of the new CBA. There's nothing in there about not being able to amnesty a player who was just traded to a team.

Can Roy be used as a trading chip?

 

My guess is they will clean up the language to make it where it has to be a current contract on that team. Not just a current contract under the CBA.

 

Don't think it would be a good trading chip(if it were possible)

They'd still have to pay his contract(4 more years). It just wouldn't count against the cap. Not exactly an expiring contract.

And if the other team was looking to shed salary, wouldn't they just amnesty the player they would be trading?

 

Ya, unless they have more than one player they want to get rid of.

 

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/or...sf/2011/11/canzano_blazers_appear_set_to.html

Stop meddling Paul Allen!!!!

Good to know that the man that writes the checks allegedly is ready to cut Roy loose