I Need To Stop Trying To Help Y'all Gain Perspective

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  1. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    says the guy who always blames mass shootings on Aspergers.
     
  2. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Tulsa police officer who fatally shot Terence Crutcher thought he may have been high on PCP, attorney says

    The Tulsa police officer who fatally shot Terence Crutcher after his car broke down in the middle of the street thought the unarmed man was behaving erratically and that he may have been under the influence of PCP, the cop’s attorney said.


    Officer Betty Shelby, who is seen on police video firing a single fatal shot at close range at Crutcher, had recently undergone drug-recognition training and believed Crutcher was high on the dissociative sedative, attorney Scott Wood told the Tulsa World.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/tulsa-fatally-shot-terence-crutcher-pcp-article-1.2799465


    So even the cop who fired didn't think he had a weapon or was going for a weapon.
     
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  3. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Not all of them, only the ones where it seems like it would be.
     
  4. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    It doesn't say anywhere there she didn't think he had a weapon or was going for a weapon.
     
  5. riverman

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    I don't know Prez....I'm the type of person who doesn't think there's any such thing as a great way to get shot
     
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  6. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    and how many of the ones where you basically beat off to the aspergers claim, were actually done by someone with aspergers?
     
  7. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    probably most. won't get disclosed b/c of HIPAA
     
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  8. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Or probably not most, since it is not a common character trait of someone with aspergers or autism. But hey, you read it somewhere online and it makes you cool to say it.
     
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    One carries a gun and the other carries a whistle, but police and basketball referees hold a tremendous amount of power over the people within their jurisdiction.

    Actually, the BB referee probably has more power than LEOs, since a referee most often penalizes a player without consulting the player. Police hold a higher level of power, because they carry a gun. But the police often engage in a conversation with a suspect. The level of the penalty is often decided by the suspect’s attitude and behavior towards the LEO.

    We all know BB referees make mistakes, lots of them. Players get upset all the time when they believe the game was stopped unjustly, and often the player is right. But the referee has penalized a player and may have affected the outcome of the game, maybe even the season.

    Police officers also make mistakes when they stop people. These mistakes can affect a person’s family and their lives.

    None of us are perfect, mistakes happen. It is the referees and LEOs that abuse their power that are a concern. The abuse of power happens both on the BB court and our streets.


    I am glad BB referees do not carry guns. Rasheed Wallace would have been shot 20 times.
     
  10. Haakzilla

    Haakzilla Well-Known Member

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    ...this was my initial reaction as well, seems awfully fishy. Either that was an organized hit for the Aryan Nation -or- this lady officer grabbed her firearm instead of her taser gun and is not owning up to her mistake because it would end her murderous career :dunno:
     
  11. EL PRESIDENTE

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    yeah, the more I think of it, it seems like it was a Trump sanctioned hit in cooperation with the Tea Party and the Illuminati to avenge Harambe. The copter was there with a sniper rifle just in case things got out of hand.
     
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    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    I don't see any way to look at this one except to see a case where a cop made a fatal mistake. I have no idea what was going through her head, but there's no way this guy should have ended up dead. Her lawyer says that she thought he was reaching for a gun. I give cops a lot of leeway on things like that because their ability to come home alive is dependent upon making quick decisions. In this instance, however, there doesn't seem to be anything to support her claim. Does he make a move to his pocket? Hard to say from this video, but even if he does, it seems to me that there has to be something more than that to justify lethal force, especially when there are so many officers present. Maybe she panicked, maybe she was scared out of her mind, but she made a really bad decision. I'm no lawyer, but it seems to me that she's likely guilty of manslaughter or negligent homicide something of that nature. It's a shame that one guy is dead and a cop's career and, maybe, her life are ruined.
     
  13. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    That's sexist. Check your privilege.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    So like, am I supposed to check my privilege..... at the door? Check to make sure it's still there? Check my privilege before I wreck my privilege?
     
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  16. blue32

    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    I was going to say before Sly posted it, but they thought he was "on something" because there were 911 calls about this person abandoning their car in the middle of the road and the caller reported saying the person might be "on something".

    The nonsense about Police not supposed to be doing this and that when cars are broken down? Listen folks, they have no idea what they are getting into when they go onto a call, only what was reported to the dispatcher at 911. So they treat every situation as a potential hostile situation if it looks funny. This looked funny and was reported as being such.

    So going with that information into the situation, and the suspect not listening to police orders, and then going into his car instead of following commands I do see where they could have felt threatened and used deadly force.

    I will wait and see more information as time goes on. Not sure why they needed a taser AND a gun shot. That might have been a mistake on the female officer's part in which case she'll likely face punishment for it.
     
  17. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Cognitive dissonance... It's not a fucking compliment... Jesus.... :crazy:
     
  18. PDXFonz

    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Well I haven't said shit about BLM, but I guess maybe I should so that I can be an "everyone".
     
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    Police policy issues. They train the cops to take command and demand compliance or escalate to force. Which works fine when the officer is dealing with rational people that can hear the commands and is mentally ready and culturally ready to comply. In all other cases it very well may result in tragedy.

    I think it is a terse policy that needs to have the level of force expanded to be applied in progressive steps.
     
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  20. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    So if the person they come upon is black, shoot first and ask questions later?

    That's the problem with these horrible killings.
     

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