I think Dame stays

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  1. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Forgot to add this.

    Just because Cronin didn't make a trade already doesn't mean he lied to damian and made a decision to go young.
     
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  2. tykendo

    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    F the Miami Meat, and their little cupcake football team too.
     
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    Looks like Amick is in need of clicks this morning. So he repeated the same shit that everyone else has said for weeks. Or are we supposed to think he has breaking news?
     
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  4. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Dame: But.... I still want out.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Who even knows anymore.... journalism is entirely about repeating something someone else said.

    Most people don't realize this until it's a topic that they care about and they see it rehashed over and over and over. Back when I first started working for ESPN/Sportstalk, my job was to go around to like 50 newspapers and put stories into a database. What I took from that experience is there there are no unique ideas. It was just 50 different ways people were writing the same story.
     
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    Dame: lets get to work, grind to build it up
     
  7. tykendo

    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    Vic Lombardi (Denver's best sports guy), IMO , said this morning , the Nat'l Media is conjuring up this whole Dame B.S. and needs to knock it the Bleep off. Way to go Vic. Met him when i lived there, a real cool dude. Even cooler now.
     
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    based upon what?

    my bet is that all Amick is doing is basing that on the interview Dame did about 3 weeks ago when he was asked about Miami. I'd bet even more Amick has no new information and hasn't heard anything else that hasn't come from the massive idiots-on-drugs echo chamber the NBA twitter & blog-o-sphere has become
     
  9. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    If he thinks it makes sense for the team, any team, to gut themselves for probably what would be at best a maybe, then he's more delusional than most sports fans. When has that *ever* worked? (and no, DeRozan for Leonard is not gutting ones team).

    Nets gutted their team for Kyrie and KD, didn't work.

    Phoenix gutted their team for KD, and it didn't work last year.

    Dallas traded for Kyrie, and it blew up in their face.

    Twolves traded a BOAT load of assets for Gobert, and it hasn't worked out so far.

    Twolves trading for Butler didn't work out. 76ers trading for Butler didn't work out (scratch that, I think he signed as a FA with the 76ers). 76ers trading for Harden didn't work out. The Nets trading for Simmons didn't work out.

    One trade that might work out was Utah trading Mitchell to the Cavs. But even that, Cleveland lost in the first round and realistically, they aren't a title contender.

    For Portland to lose Simons, #3 and Sharpe to appease him isn't going to help the team win a title any sooner. Who is the backup guard? Who is the starting guard? The team still would have an anemic bench.
     
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    Maybe I'm crazy.... but Dame wanting to join Miami would be the exact OPPOSITE of running from the grind. The only worse destination would be Denver.

    I think he could join Brooklyn with his reputation intact.
     
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    Think you mean the opposite but I agree. :)
     
  13. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Agreed. He chastised guys for ring chasing, and that's pretty much what they're implying he *wants* to do here.

    Plus, the whole "he fits miami like a glove" is funny, since they demand you play defense.
     
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    The only reporters that I think you actually might have to listen to would be Haynes, Jake Fisher, Highkin... maybe a couple others. Depends on who Dame's agent is close with. It's possible Stein might have something. Marang claims to have connections but I don't believe it.

    But I don't believe Windhorst likely has connections. Most of these journalists don't have inroads to Dame. They're just rehashing what has already been said/reported.
     
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    They demand you play defense, but the guys that do don't play it well. Denver had little problems with their D.
     
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    I left out a word :lol:

    It would be the exact opposite of NOT running from the grind.
     
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    Working in the same industry, I know what you're talking about. There are unique ideas out there, but they are so few and far between. Sometimes they come from people at the smaller papers, who, unfortunately, are also tasked with putting together nightly roundups of high school tennis that have to be taken care of before they can do something enterprising or just a fresh take.

    Going off topic for just the one post, I worked at a paper that put a lot of resources into covering Penn State football, so eyes really were on us during the Jerry Sandusky scandal. Our beat writer also did a local radio show with an ESPN affiliate, and he got time on TV as a result until he went on an unhinged, expletive-spiced tirade and apparently someone at the network finally decided to go another direction. I even got asked once.

    Anyway, our beat writer never broke any news on the Sandusky thing, never had a fresh take. His coverage was commentary a couple of times per week basically joining the torch-and-pitchfork crowd. He came down against Joe Paterno like the rest of the national media even though the state DA's office said following the investigation that Paterno did exactly what he was supposed to do when an assistant coach came to him to say he thought he saw something.

    One of our other staff finally got to talking with our beat writer about the coverage and our beat writer agreed that not all the criticism was valid. He asked then why our beat writer never wrote that. Our beat writer said, "If I do that, everyone's going to say I'm a Penn State homer or a pedophile enabler." He wasn't going to risk that even though basically everyone in our editorial department with all the information coming out felt the same way -- that there were people who actually did act appropriately that were being scapegoated because other people dropped the ball or turned a blind eye.

    Another time, I wrote a column on a sensitive topic. Despite being almost completely positively received and drawing the most social media engagement I think of any in-house production since I was on staff, I got called in by the managing editor and chided on it, not because what I wrote was wrong, but because it was controversial.

    But, yeah, getting the story out there first instead of doing actual strong journalism because of the never-ending news cycle and social media has led to more commentary than actual reporting and more journalists reacting to the reports of their colleagues than actually doing their own investigation.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Was the audio a little wonky for anyone else? I kept hearing other stuff bleed in.
     
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    The Lillard updates aren't interesting anymore, says Ryen Russillo.
    "I'm officially tapped out on all of them."
    He addresses the Blazers' situation at the beginning of his podcast and discusses why trades weren't made.

     
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    And even with guys like Haynes, Fisher, Highkin, you still have to be careful what you accept and what you don't. Haynes has said he thought stuff but acknowledged he didn't talk to Dame (and, from how I remember him phrasing it, it didn't sound like he talked to Dame's representation, either). Plus, all those guys have copy and clicks to sell. It's easier to roll with the tide like the "Dame wants traded" stuff a couple of years ago and be one of the masses of wrong than to go against the grain, say he might but it's not certain, and then turn out to be one of a handful that end up being wrong and being spotlighted for that.

    There's a certain amount of cognitive dissonance at play, too. I'm sure a lot of these guys see all of their peers absolutely certain that Dame's going to be traded and thinking "If they all think this, they must know something" instead of trusting their own instincts. They become part of the mob without even really knowing why.
     

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