Some of my brain cells imploded reading the logic of the first post. And now we have to hear sloth brag about having the number one pick...ugh....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ May 20 2008, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Who do you take at #10? You did really well with a late pick in getting Marcus, eh?</div> Well, we don't have Stefanski any more. So that changes things. We have to think like Kiki+Thron would...
I just can't believe people are disappointed with the #10 pick. It's like going all in with 2-7 and being disappointed when you don't win the pot.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Carter15Nets @ May 20 2008, 08:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bulls now get Rose or Beasley because of 1 less win Everyone laughed at me back then telling me I am not a true fan... We could have had Beasley</div> [satire] Blame the reffs!! Stern and LAURA FRANK are keeping us outta da BEASTly sweepstakes [/satire] edit: damn it why don't my satire tags work
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 20 2008, 07:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>We got screwed.</div> no we're not. we've got what we were supposed to get - 10th pick. and remember, there are picks like Stromile Swift -2nd and Andrea Bargnani-1st, and picks like Andrew Bynum - 10th etc. Draft wisely!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus @ May 20 2008, 09:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 20 2008, 07:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>We got screwed.</div> no we're not. we've got what we were supposed to get - 10th pick. and remember, there are picks like Stromile Swift -2nd and Andrea Bargnani-1st, and picks like Andrew Bynum - 10th etc. Draft wisely! </div> Lol I totally missed that. Yeah we had a ~87% chance to get the 10th pick, and the chances of getting any other pick were no more than ~3% per position.
there was a greater chance of us moving down a spot than moving up... so im fine with what we expected all along. i was dissapointed too at first the odds of us moving up were really slim. Bulls just got crazy lucky
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (razel231 @ May 20 2008, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (soul driver @ May 20 2008, 08:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not crazy for giving up Swat, simply because he and Camby could just scare the shit out of anybody when they're on court together. But, as reganomics said, I'd throw in another pick and stick with our 40. Do I think Melo and Camby on the Nets would work? Compared to the season we just had, I think ANYTHING, well, almost anything, can at least give us a better record.</div> But does this trade make us a top 3 team in the east? </div> Well, I think (starter wise) that it places us above Clevland, Tornto, possibly Orlando. Maybe not top 3, but perhaps top 4.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (soul driver @ May 20 2008, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (razel231 @ May 20 2008, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (soul driver @ May 20 2008, 08:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not crazy for giving up Swat, simply because he and Camby could just scare the shit out of anybody when they're on court together. But, as reganomics said, I'd throw in another pick and stick with our 40. Do I think Melo and Camby on the Nets would work? Compared to the season we just had, I think ANYTHING, well, almost anything, can at least give us a better record.</div> But does this trade make us a top 3 team in the east? </div> Well, I think (starter wise) that it places us above Clevland, Tornto, possibly Orlando. Maybe not top 3, but perhaps top 4. </div> If this is the case i don't see a team with an aging Camby getting much better than that in years to come and we should proceed in another direction even if the deal , pipe dream as it is. were possible.
Razel, I totally agree with you. Camby's defense is overrated (he gets blocks by leaving the post open) and with age (34) he is slowing down. However, the beauty of this deal is that Camby has 2 years on a decreasing contract. This season he'll make $8M and the following he'll make $7.65. Which basically means that he'll be making his fair value, he'll cover our rebounding deficiencies, and his contract expires in time for the Sweepstakes of 2010. Plus, (someone correct me if I'm wrong), new contract year starts on July 1. Technically, this year Camby is still making $10M. Thus if the Nets trade for Anthony/Camby on or very soon after the draft night, they get to package an extra $2M in contracts. I think this is an excellent trade for New Jersey.
Indeed, it is a pipe dream. And Camby is on his way down, but I think he'd be a good teacher for Sean on and off the court and as his play time decreases within a year or two, Sean's will increase, perhaps being a starter and having Camby come off the bench for certain occasions.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Astral @ May 20 2008, 09:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Razel, I totally agree with you. Camby's defense is overrated (he gets blocks by leaving the post open) and with age (34) he is slowing down. However, the beauty of this deal is that Camby has 2 years on a decreasing contract. This season he'll make $8M and the following he'll make $7.65. Which basically means that he'll be making his fair value, he'll cover our rebounding deficiencies, and his contract expires in time for the Sweepstakes of 2010. Plus, (someone correct me if I'm wrong), new contract year starts on July 1. Technically, this year Camby is still making $10M. Thus if the Nets trade for Anthony/Camby on or very soon after the draft night, they get to package an extra $2M in contracts. I think this is an excellent trade for New Jersey.</div> So then why does Denver make this deal?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (soul driver @ May 20 2008, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Indeed, it is a pipe dream. And Camby is on his way down, but I think he'd be a good teacher for Sean on and off the court and as his play time decreases within a year or two, Sean's will increase, perhaps being a starter and having Camby come off the bench for certain occasions.</div> I think SWill would have to be included for a deal to even be discussed. Otherwise I'd pull the trigger. But Denver probably wouldn't.
So RJ+Swill+Mwill+KVH'S CONTRACT+10TH PICK = Melo & Camby? So if this deal gets done then.. PG Devin Harris/Darrel Armstrong SG Vince Carter/Maurice Ager SF Carmelo Anthony/Boki Nachbar?/ Julius Hodge?/Trenton Hassel PF Josh Boone/Stromile Swift/ Nenad Krstic(If resigned) C Marcus Camby/Desagana Diop(If resigned) Also we have the 21st & 40th pick... So how is this team looking so far? Thoughts?
no problem...we trade for bargnani and we get a #1 pick! we also got #2 overall stromile swift...how lucky can we get!
i think instead of swill they might want swifts expiring... if swift doesnt opt out and its a player option he would have 1 season of like 6.8 million or something, the nets can use that as trade bait or even hassel's contract its close to expiring... i think the nuggets are tryin to get in a better financial situation
If Camby comes here he probably will see a dip in his production because he won't have the opportunities like he has in Denver not because of his age. He's still playing at the top of his game and one of the best centers in the league period. He can easily play out his remaining contract at a very high level for us between any injuries he may have along the way. He's much more than just a shot blocker and rebounder and for the peantus we're giving up in these scenarios it's insane he's even in the offers at all.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_Yinka_Dare_Fan @ May 20 2008, 09:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Huge payroll cut.</div> Not long-term
