OT I was just almost beaten up and arrested at Walmart

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  1. Sinobas

    Sinobas Banned User BANNED

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    The right to use force to protect yourself extends to the right to protect others as well. You wouldn't get in trouble for tackling a guy that was beating a woman up.
     
  2. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    I hope not.
     
  3. Sinobas

    Sinobas Banned User BANNED

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    In the olden days, there was a thing called a "hue and cry", if someone called for help, people were obligated to assist or they could get into trouble.
     
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  4. MarAzul

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    Dang! I already hate to go to Walmart. It seems to always feel like Sly's experience.
    I was there Monday, in and out quick as possible. It's the only damn place in town where you can get a SIM card.

    Ha! I have to laugh sort of in a sick way after reading Sly's report. A rule I made up, err sort of a rule;
    When your in a decent place, it's good to help a woman under attack.
    When your in a crappy place, never help a woman being attacked by a man! Chances are huge that they both will be whacking you before you finish.
    Walmart strongly suggest the rule is valid.
     
  5. Jade Falcon

    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    Forgive me: it was the King County Sheriff's office in Seattle that defended them. It happened in 2010, and the girl involved actually did not even go to the hospital, I don't think.

    http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=23000.0;wap2

    You'd get fired though if it's against corporate policy. I guarantee it. They don't give a shit about the woman getting beat up; you are there as an insurance policy, nothing more. They care that you keep the business out of a lawsuit. That's it.

    And if you think that's bad how corporations treat such issues, you should see how private security companies treat their employees.
     
  6. Sedatedfork

    Sedatedfork Rip City Rhapsody

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    I bet biker guy is a Lakers fan and so is the pos wife beater.
     
  7. SheedSoNasty

    SheedSoNasty Well-Known Member

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    I'm still expecting SPD to say this was all a joke.
     
  8. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Small update:

    Filing a police report:

    I looked online at the PPD website. It clearly says for cases of domestic related and if you don't know the names of the parties involved you can't file an online complaint.

    https://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/cor/

    All I have is the first name of the assistant manager, she refused twice to give Mrs Poker Dog her last name when asked.

    The only other option was to call the police non-emergency number. Except the moment the word Walmart tumbles out of my mouth you can't help but think that the officer on the other end of the phone is going to make assumptions about the type of person I am. (People of Walmart comes to mind, lol.)

    So I put on a nice dress shirt and jeans and drove to the SE precinct and they were closed, then drove to PPD headquarters in downtown Portland, the thought that this is the type of story that is best told in person.

    Mrs Poker Dog came along with me.

    The officer at HQ said that since Walmart is not in their precinct he would not take a report. The SE precinct is closed on Sunday. (which we hard already found out.) I could call the non-emergency number but there is no guarantee that an officer would be available to come to my home and take a report.

    We have things to do today, errands to run, so waiting around at home all day for an officer to maybe show up is not really an option.

    At this point I'm going to write up a shorter version of what I already posted here, include the manager's first name, and then go ahead and submit it online.

    Then tomorrow I will go to the SE precinct and ask to speak to someone in person. Hopefully they will be able to pull up what I have already submitted online and they will have an easier time writing up my complaint.

    I'm not contacting Walmart corporate until tomorrow at the earliest and after my complaint has been officially and properly submitted.

    The desk sergeant downtown did say that they will send someone to the store to review the store video and interview the Walmart employees involved.

    This is exactly what I want to happen. My story is accurate and the video will support that.
     
  9. Jade Falcon

    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    Don't do this online.

    Corporate DEFINITELY needs to get involved with that.

    Stop worrying about that. That shouldn't even be a concern of yours. These are professional police officers who get called to every kind of dump imaginable...from crack houses to titty bars. Trust me: they are not going to make any assumptions based on the fact that you shop at Walmart.

    Correct.

    What a bunch of horseshit. Your next contact needs to be the Precinct Commander or the Assistant Chief or Chief of Police. I would go in that order. HQ should ALWAYS take a fucking report from a citizen; regardless of location.

    Good! Stick with it. Be as pesky about this as you have to be. It is their fucking jobs to investigate this. This was NOT a civil matter.

    And if they don't investigate it, then the State needs to be notified.

    Good. Again: stick with it and be as pesky as you have to be. And it's always best to have a police report on your side, and you can always request a copy of it.

    Good to hear. Keep us updated.

    Thank God I don't live in Portland. Jesus Christ, what a fucking waste of beautiful scenery.
     
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  10. SlyPokerDog

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    The desk sergeant was very polite and helpful. After listening to a brief version of what happened his advice was designed to put the incident in the hands of who could properly investigate instead of it getting lost in bureaucracy.
     
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  11. MarAzul

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    Good Luck! I really do think Walmart must do something about what the hell goes on in their stores. I truly hate to go there. I had a hassle there last year, not like yours but annoying all the same.
    No sense in store being a friggin hangout.
     
  12. SlyPokerDog

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    Biker looking guy never assaulted me. It was a different younger employee in uniform who wanted to fight me for not complying with his order to hand over my phone.
     
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  13. Jade Falcon

    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    Well, when you put it like that.....fair enough.
     
  14. H.C.

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    I give you kudos for not laughing in the faces of the employees/wannabe security guard who got up in your face.
    Last time someone tried to physically intimidate me into obeying laws they thought they understood, laughing was my response.
    There is a good chance if I was in your position I would have ended up laughing at the walmart employees.
    Call the police next time you see that happening, worst case they already know of the incident and have units otw.
     
  15. SlyPokerDog

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    New update: While I was running errands my attorney called me back. I had sent him a brief synopsis of what happened.

    He pointed out one thing, that once I file a police report about this and tie my name to it I will be called for everyone's future lawsuit against Walmart for years to come.

    I'm not sure how I feel about this.
     
  16. Jade Falcon

    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    I'm sure they're not gonna make you fly out to New Jersey on your dime just to testify for Edna, the 89 year old Jewish widow of a man who died in their bathroom.

    Can you decline for select cases?
     
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    I'm assuming that he means in the Portland area.

    Big company like Walmart I could see having a dozen lawsuits a year just in the local metro area.
     
  18. Jade Falcon

    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    With respect, I highly doubt that. Not everyone can afford a lawyer and a lawsuit. Most are just going to shake it off and shop elsewhere.

    But this is entirely your choice. Only you can value what it's worth to you.
     
  19. Chris Craig

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    They better pay you for your time if it doesn't involve your case. Doesn't seem like they can force you to do that. Maybe in an instance that someone from your case files a lawsuit against Wal-Mart like the woman who got beat, or the employee who wanted to fight you, caused I'm sure by the stress of working at Wal-Mart ( really he's just an asshole)
     
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  20. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Were the employees throwing W' s? (Wal-Mart gang signs)
     

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