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  1. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Explain how those principles lead to wing-nut behavior.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Emo westnob! :biglaugh:
     
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    So what happens to this philosophy when they get elected and most if not all submit bills to ban or otherwise severely limit abortion?

    I'm not stuck on abortion, it's just one of those agenda items they don't talk about but their actions say it is very high on their list of priorities.
     
  4. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    As long as they stick to the three principles, then I don't really care about the rest.
     
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    They don't stick to the three principles, do they. Abortion, for example, isn't one of the three principles.

    If you mean they follow up on those three things as if they mean it, well...

    http://thinkprogress.org/economy/20...e-debt-ceiling-despite-not-receiving-demands/

    Almost three-quarters of Republicans voted in the affirmative. And even the Tea Party came around in the end. By 32-to-28, members of the Tea Party Caucus voted for the bill, despite earlier claims — which now look like a bluff — that they wouldn’t vote to raise the debt ceiling under any circumstances.
     
  6. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Then they don't get my vote a second time, do they?
     
  7. Denny Crane

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    Which Tea Party are you talking about anyway?

    There are a number of them. They're not all the same by any stretch.

    http://www.rightwingnews.com/john-hawkins/a-seven-item-tea-party-agenda-for-a-gop-house/

    This site suggests the tea party has a 7 item agenda, not 3.

    I don't recall in the constitution where it says we should build a wall around the country to keep people out. This country wasn't founded on christian principles - it was founded on free immigration.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    The three are the ones upon which all Tea Parties agree. However, thanks for playing. You're swell.
     
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    Where do you get that all tea parties agree to these three things?
     
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    How about #14 and #15 on their list?

    #14 English as our core language is required.
    #15 Traditional family values are encouraged.
     
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    What if the government legalized you killing your 1-year-old child because you changed your mind?
     
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    You're arguing that somebody must only care about those three principles, otherwise they can't consider themselves part of the political party. Like all political labels, nobody fits perfectly into any of them. You're arguing that if a person doesn't believe strongly in ONLY those three principles, they can't possibly align more closely with the Tea Party than any other part. And that is ridiculous.
     
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    you have to ask the wing-nuts. I have been to both tea party and occupy rallies as an interested onlooker, I saw a lot of wing-nuts. You may not consider the people wing-nuts that i do, but I read the signs, I look at the dress, I listen to the chants, and I hear the message. I dont hear Constitutionally Limited Govt, Free Market Principles and Fiscal Responsibility being the cornerstones, I hear abortion is murder, I hear Obama is illegitimate, I hear the end is coming, I hear fearful talk of what the Democrats want to do (when no mainstream Dem wants to do those things) I hear all sorts of things that may tangentially touch your cornerstones of the tea party, but it veers so far off that it does those core ideals a big disservice. And in some cases, flat out goes against the initial ideals.
     
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    In other words, total pipe dreams.
     
  16. maxiep

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    So, one shouldn't try?
     
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    Your straw man.

    I argue no such thing.
     
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  19. maxiep

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    Excellent point!
     
  20. blazerboy30

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    Then you've done a great job confusing yourself.

    A person can associate themselves with the Tea Party and still not be in favor of abortion. You're the one who brought those up as being mutually exclusive. They aren't.
     

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