If CJ were to be traded, who are we most likely to get?

I think part of Cleveland's issue is they're not sure if they can afford Sexton with Love on the books. I think we could trade CJ to NYK for picks that go to Cleveland, trade DJJ to Cleveland, and receive back Love and Larry Nance Jr. He'd fit like a glove in between Roco (switch ability) and Nurk.

Lillard/Powell/Covington/Nance/Nurkic
vet (Cory Joseph)?/Simons/Little/Love/Collins

I think that's a better 10 man unit than we had this last year. We'd need some guys for injury insurance (Ed Davis, Harkless), but it looks balanced and good defense.

 

You know, I keep thinking there's no way we get Simmons so cheap. And then I see shit like this:


He's standing next to the rim and it's a dead ball and he misses 4 layups in a row. How the fuck do you do everything else so well and have just zero ability to score?

He is the absolute, complete opposite of CJ in every basketball sense.

 

yeah if you look up his metrics he’s actually very comparable to CJ with regards to overall value. It wouldn’t be a lopsided trade at all.

Simmons is overrated by the media, but his strengths would help our weaknesses. Great defender and passer, good size. Can run the second unit and take pressure off Dame with the starters.

On the other hand, CJ would help philly. Gives them a go to scorer on the perimeter and helps space the court around Embiid.

I don’t think we can get Simmons for CJ straight up, but it’s a good starting point. No matter what Morey says, after being around Harden for so long, he’s probably yearning for another scorer as well, and he also has a history with Olshey.

 

Two important truths that must not be forgotten in the "Trade CJ!" discussion.
1. His value is at an all-time low right now
Before his injury, it was at an all-time high, but these playoffs...


2. If we're trading him to keep Lillard happy, it severely restricts our options
The best offers we're likely to get are going to involve packages of picks (a la Harden/Paul George). If we're going to insist that trading CJ makes us better RIGHT NOW, then (a) we're going to have to include a shitload of picks, thereby hamstringing our progress for years to come (especially as picks are much more valuable to small-market franchises than to places like LA that can always land free agents)
(b) we're going to rule out our best offers right off the bat.

So... if you really want to trade CJ, the best thing to do is TRADE LILLARD FIRST, and then HANG ON TO CJ FOR A (HALF-) SEASON so he can pump up his value as the primary scoring threat.

Sorry folks, this is cold hard facts.

 

I'm interested, but cav fans would be unlikely to...

 

The NYK is almost bare, but the one's left are very interesting.

 

Tobias Harris in Philly is my pick. Great player, great dude. Has played his best ball with Embiid out. Salaries match.

 

Depends on your objective, if its to start over and maximize assets, sure trade Dame and pump up CJ's value and maybe Nurk and Simons?
If its to appease Dame and keep the playoffs as the synergy to make money, keep fans in the stands and hope for a decent trade to better improve the balance of the team, continue with that process.
Dames is basically in part control with what they do going forward one way or the other.

 

https://theathletic.com/2638547/202...xt-coach-hollingers-front-office-perspective/

 

Here is a guy who agrees with you, he also advises trading Lillard:
"Trading CJ McCollum would be putting a bandaid over a situation that needs stitches. The Blazers could go the route of acquiring draft capital in a trade for McCollum or they could go explore getting back NBA ready talent now. But in any scenario in where McCollum is sent packing, it’s not as though the Blazers would be getting a player back that is wildly better. That’s not exactly how trades work.

A game plan that consists of a McCollum trade could shake things up and maybe that’s all the Blazers need. That’s what they would be banking in on at least. In the last few years of the Terry Stotts era, the Blazers had really maxed out as much as they could and started to plateau. Trading McCollum for another solid NBA player wouldn’t be enough to put them over the top in the loaded Western Conference."https://clutchpoints.com/damian-lil...re-cj-mccollum-by-the-blazers-this-offseason/

 

So this trade gives us a mobile C who is phenomenal defensively that can hit the three and would be a great second option scorer off of pick and roll/pop situations.

It also gives us a versatile wing who can defend forwards at 6'6" and having a 6'10" wingspan. He can also initiate offense and get his own shot. The move also saves us 8M.

If we re-signed Norm we'd be looking at Dame, Norm, LeVert, RoCo, Turner, DJ, Ant, Nas, Zach and a MLE PG. In reality this lineup doesn't have a true second option scorer because Turner, LeVert and Norm can be considered 2a, 2b and 2c. They can all score in multiple ways and are great options.

For the Pacers the deal makes sense because Brogdon is the perfect guard to play in a back court with CJ. They still get defensive big man and one that can score on the inside. ESPN Trade Machine gives them +10 wins with this moves so the analytics are on their side.

 

Not clear why Philly would want to unload a guy like Harris who is having a monster year. Makes no sense to me.

 

They probably won't.

 

Yeah the time to strike with Harris was the season before last when Philly was reportedly pursuing CJ, management has changed. The only team in the league that I know their current management was reported to want CJ was the Knicks. I'm sure he has value on other teams that don't let stuff like that leak but the Knicks are the only team reported to have interest.

 

I'd much rather have Brogdon than LeVert, but that's probably too much to ask. I would think CJ and LeVert would be better than CJ and Brogdon

 

I could see Morey having interest in CJ and some for Simmons. He is an offensive guru GM that likes run and gun style and three's. Fits CJ's game perfectly. Prop need to throw in Little and/or picks.

 

Yeah, I just thought that Brogdon is more valuable to the Pacers but I'd take either guy. Brogdon is a really big guard so I think he could play the 3. Either way, I would do the trade.

 

I said that earlier in the season when people were talking about getting Sabonis but then I watched a lot of Sabonis and he's quick and gets out on the perimeter better than I thought. So I don't know if they're incompatible. I think they might work well together.

 

Trading Dame would be suicide, and he'd probably drop 60 on us every time we faced him. Bad idea.