If CJ were to be traded, who are we most likely to get?

CJ would be quite good as the lead guard full time....better than he is here. He just can't do that here and that is part of the 'fit' problem.

 

Agreed. I think Simmons for CJ makes a lot of sense for both clubs. Defensive we would be terrific with Powell, Simmons, Roco and Nurk as the 2, 3, 4 and 5.

 

Will certainly be interesting. With this logic, he's almost guaranteed to be "undervalued", in that the team acquiring him will probably end up getting more out of him, relative to what they paid for, than what we did, relative to what we got for him.

But is he more Ron Mercer (great as co-pilot, floundered as lead) or James Harden?

 

I like the idea of a defensive point forward but I hate the idea of him shooting the ball, dude can’t even make FTs

 

there would be no optimism in watching CJ chuck up 30 shots and dribble 453,673 times a game. CJ is one of the most boring players in the league

if Portland goes the nuclear route of trading Dame, they should absolutely dump CJ's ass at the same time, get as bad as they can, load up on high lottery picks and try the Philly route

and if they are really lucky, maybe one of those high lottery picks will turn out to be a player almost as good as Dame. Maybe this time, Portland will actually try and build a team around that player and not ridiculously overvalue another player cluttering up the rebuild

and why would it be that Portland has to trade CJ for somebody who would be the 2nd best player on the Blazers? It's highly debatable if CJ is the 2nd best right now. He sure as hell wasn't in the playoffs. Setting that as the standard for a CJ trade, narrows the options way to much

 

Yes please

 

this is basically your argument....that being that Portland has screwed up so badly in building a contender around Dame they should just give up and trade Dame because of their own incompetence. And, your desired result from trading Dame is to hand the keys over the CJ so he can "build his value"....fuck that. He isn't going to build his value at all because the NBA knows what he is as a player

Before entertaining thoughts of trading Dame, everything else should be on the table. EVERYTHING. And the first thing that should be on the table is getting Olshey's butt out of the GM's office because he's the reason Portland is in the desperate situation of having to put everything on the table. It's his fucked-up vision of what a contender should look like that has left Portland as a frustrated pretender for 8 seasons

Olshey is the author of all things wrong with the Blazers right now

so, in the absolute worst case scenario of Portland having to shop Dame around, the absolute last person that should be in charge of the shopping is Olshey

 

Finding a way to trade CJ for good player is one thing and full rebuild with Dame gone and "going Philly's way" is another. Trading Dame would be worst thing that could happen to Blazers.
You would give up best player in franchise history, cos you couldn't handle him and then we would go talking about "small market" shit again.
We got MVP candidate and soft coach was our biggest problem, so stfu and see what we can play with proper coach.
And yes, CJ can pass the ball. You just need to bench his ass when he going crazy.
Calm the f down.

 

Fucking lawyers

 

CJ and picks for Simmons and a good sports psychologist would be an amazing trade for us

 

If Portland were to trade CJ for Simmons (my dream scenario) I think you have to trade Nurk in another deal as well. Simmons needs to play center, where he can play in the middle and be spaced by four shooters.

Holy shit, I hadn't realized Simmons was shooting 32% in the playoffs from the line. That's comically bad. It's a great time to buy low on this guy. It's hard to imagine how painful it must be for him shooting free throws in front of an angry Philly crowd.

 

Trading Dame is probably the smartest scenario in terms of winning games. But it's not going to happen.

Portland has been desperate to hitch its wagon to a star since Drexler. It needs its own Nowitzki/Duncan/Kobe type of guy for marketing and prestige reasons. With so many false starts--Aldridge, Roy, Oden, Darius Miles, Z-bo, Rasheed--I think the team and the fans appreciate Dame too much to ever let him go.

And really I don't blame them. At this point I'd rather just enjoy his heroics and everything he represents than maybe get deeper playoff runs with guys you could trade him for. I've never felt that way as a Blazer fan about any other player.

But I completely understand how you could feel differently. It's a game of W's and L's.

 

So Moses Brown for Kemba Walker (and they threw in Al Horford)

Obviously Boston is now going to trade Jaylen Brown for CJ. They may even throw in a 1st round pick.

 

Pair CJ and Nurk
Amd we have a trade package that just might return us someone of value….

Towns and a pick?

 

Perhaps Boston just made room to trade for Dame?

 

Making room and having what it would take to make a trade for Dame are two different things.

 

Bill Simmons podcast, they had a legit convo about CJ + Roco for Simmons + filler.

And they said Philly should take that and run.

I must be dreaming. If anything like that is on the table, I would jump for joy.

 

There was an offer on the table from Boston including kemba. Gonna be hard to get a deal done for dame without that money