If KCP/Otto Porter get max deals..

If you want to argue facts, go ahead. Not for me though. I'm good on that.

 

Story would be different if he was UNRESTRICTED. Teams would be lining up for him.

 

Well yeah, that's what matters, but he had great chemistry with his teammates and coaches in BOS and had the best season of his career there. They regretted losing him, but no way in hell we're they going to outbid POR to keep him.

He just average 37 MPG in the playoffs with 11.6 PTS/G, 6.2 REB/G, 1.8 AST/G, 2.4 STL/G, 3.4 BLK/G with a PER of 16.2 a TS% of .525 a BLK% of 8.8 and a DBPM of 6.1. Yep, he missed some FTs, as expected, but he did so any other things well he was on the floor for 37 minutes a game and his overall contributions were decidedly positive (BPM = +4.3).

By contrast, Evan Turner played 31 MPG, averaged 10.3 PTS/G, 5.8 REB/G, 3.8 AST/G, 1.8 STL/G, 0.5 BLK/G with a PER of 12.8 a TS% of .512 a BLK% of 1.4 and a DBPM of 5.5. Turner played well in the playoffs, his total contribution was positive (BPM = +2.2), but Roberson played better.

Roberson is a starter. Turner is not. Roberson has a clear cut role - guard the other team's best perimeter scorer. What's Turner's role? Is he a SF, a SG or a PG? You can't play him at SF against bigger SFs. You can't play him against quick PGs and you can't really play him at SG because he can't shoot. He's the classic jack of all trades (well except for shooting), master of none. That's why he isn't and won't be a starter in this league. He's average at some things, below average at some, awful at a few and elite at none. At least Roberson is elite at the 50% of the game when the other team has the ball.

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Brooklyn wasn't looking out for Portland's best interest. They did their absolute best to get Allen Crabbe. You can certainly argue about how unimpressive he was last season, and you'd be right, but plenty of people around the league believe in Allen Crabbe's potential and not all of them are delusional Blazer fans like me.

 

They play the same minutes (actually, Crabbe plays a fraction more). So, why does Crabbe take so many fewer shots? He's usually the second or 3rd option, when he's in the game. Redick starts and is, at best the third option when he's in the game.

The difference is Crabbe is passive and tentative. He absolutely will not shoot unless he is wide open. Redick is cold blooded and will not hesitate to take a shot with a hand in his face. That's why Redick is a solid starter and Crabbe is a below average 6th man.

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Zzzzzzzzzzz

 

I agree. Crabbe's passive, uninspired play puts me to sleep, too.

BNM

 

Good thing your opinion doesn't matter.

 

Ah yes, the obligatory ad hominem attack. Can't argue the facts attack the poster.

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"Absolutely will not shoot unless he is wide open" is not a fact, but keep crying about Crabbe anyway. You'll have another couple of seasons to do so.

 

Ok, then you explain why he plays as many minutes as Redick, plays fewer minutes with the starters, yet take so many fewer shots per game than Redick.

Redick is out there starting with CP3 and Blake Griffin, two high USG% all stars, yet he manages to get plenty of shots. Crabbe comes into the game when Dame goes to the bench. He is the 2nd option on offense, yet he can't seem to get many shots. Why is that?

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Reddick wasn't even available to be signed when Crabbe was so this 'example' is a non starter.

 

Crabbe is easily the worst player ever to tear a fanbase apart. On the other hand, Meyers Leonard might be the worst player ever to pull an entire fanbase together. So we have both dynamics working for us.

 

I had no idea Allen Crabbe was such a divisive figure. Is it because of his hair?

 

It's because there's a loud group of people who thinks Crabbe is a very good player who's well worth his salary and a loud group of people who thinks Crabbe is terrible and hugely overpaid. And the arguments light up this forum every week or so.

 

I understand that Brooklyn's offer is unique in the sense that they had money to burn, but they offered that contract in part because they believed that Crabbe had the potential to live up to such a contract. What do you think his "true market value" is by the way?

 

Redick is a lot better then Crabbe and Turner.

Yeah. You want to revise stance you took last offseason that Olshey's signings were wise?