If not us, who?

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  1. 3RA1N1AC

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    the enemy of my enemy or some such nonsense
     
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    Here he is meeting with Taliban Leaders (Reagan helped create the Taliban) when he called them:

    "These gentlemen are the moral equivalents of America's founding fathers."

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    I guess we'll agree to disagree on that one. The "Cold War" was Ronnie Raygun's way of enriching the Military Industrial Complex.
     
  4. MARIS61

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    It lead to the ethnic cleansing of most of eastern Europe.
     
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    ^^ Truth
     
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    Nothing wrong with disagreeing. If we all agreed about everything these forums would be pretty damn boring.
     
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    So we should have propped up the crumbling Soviet empire?
     
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    [video]http://www.democracynow.org/2004/6/10/ghost_wars_how_reagan_armed_the[/video]
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    We should have stayed out of it. But Reagan had an election to "win". Jimmy Carter was railroaded out of office.
     
  10. SlyPokerDog

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    From your own link -
    No one could have foreseen that by helping liberate Afghanistan would directly lead to 9/11.
     
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    I believe what Maris is referring to happened after Reagan was elected.
     
  12. 3RA1N1AC

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    not sure what point you are trying to make about the taliban by bringing up iran contra i guess :dunno:

    his support of the mujahidin fighters in afghanistan indirectly lead to the taliban and al-qaeda
     
  13. MARIS61

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    We should have stayed out of it altogether.
     
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    just goes to show, dont give other countries weapons or military training, more often than not it seems they use it against us
     
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    Multiple acts of treason arming terrorists simply to enrich the American arms industry.
     
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    would have been nice, but i think after the soviet backed north vietnamese held us off for a decade plus, the US thought they had it coming, so we gave them a vietnam of their own

    it would have been appropriate if the north vietnamese then flew planes into russias two tallest buildings i guess, but thats a story for my alternate universe novel
     
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    The Tehran deal was before the election, and resulted in several more months of suffering by the hostages and their families.

    Iran-Contra was later.
     
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    yes, complete garbage, and completely par for the course

    i mean the US aided al-qaeda THIS YEAR for gods sake, complaining about the contras is old hat. while we are at it, lets rehash the gulf of tonkin incident, or noriegas cia credentials
     
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    Yes I know that. But you were talking about the ethnic cleansing that happened after the Iron Curtain collapsed and that had nothing to with Carter or Iran.
     
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    Bullshit. He made peace with our enemies.
     

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