If you like your Healthcare coverage, you can keep your Healthcare coverage! Period!!

Re: If you like your Healthcare coverage, you can keep your Healthcare coverage! Peri

Obamacare is the biggest positive American accomplishment since Lyndon Johnson's Medicare and Great Society legislation.

I know, I know, you rate wars and death higher.

 

Re: If you like your Healthcare coverage, you can keep your Healthcare coverage! Peri

Quinnipiac is the most conservative national polling company. Coincidentally, it's the one you cite the most.

In a 2012 post-election rating of poll accuracy I read, they rated last.

 

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Good. I was getting tired of Quinnipiac. For those wondering, he made up those quotations from me. I didn't say those.

 

Re: If you like your Healthcare coverage, you can keep your Healthcare coverage! Peri

Why don't you make my canned denial response for me?

 

Re: If you like your Healthcare coverage, you can keep your Healthcare coverage! Peri

I caught an amusing story last night on NPR. The White House has decided to re brand oboma care. If you listen to the past week, every reference to this has been made under the proper term Affordable Care Act. It seems this distancing form obamacare came about when a pole was taken and found that only 30 percent approved of obama care, but that 47% thought ACA was ok. The lack of approval was in part due to a lack of trust in the president.

So how wonderful is this program when the guy who proudly claims this as his signature achievement, wants to distance himself from its failures and lack of public support?

 

Re: If you like your Healthcare coverage, you can keep your Healthcare coverage! Peri

I thought about this for awhile and I wanted to respond in a different manner. I find your mind set scary also. From my perspective it appears you are automatically dismissive of other peoples points of view who do not align with yours. Using terms like misinformed, low information, and other terms which are meant to belittle the opposing point of view. I'm glad you called me out on my crazy comments, because I was dong the same thing as an emotional reaction to view points expressed by other members who I feel do the same thing. But by using this tactic as well as crying foul over everything just makes me discount any credible points you are making. I realize that this is two sided and Im sure you have similar feelings towards me and you find the liberal mind set just as oppressive as I find the conservative one. Certain things that I see and you don't (or that you see and I don't) seem so obvious that it feels like it is crazy.

Now to qualify my knowledge for you, even though I don't think it should be necessary to do to have a voice. My girlfriend (soon to be fiancé) has worked in medical billing for 13 years and management for 6. My mom is an ex Xray tech and now runs her own successful medical billing business. My dad is an anesthesiologist (and I still have to google the spelling every time), my sister is a nurse in an oncology unit. Im the black sheep in the family and went into technology though, but to say or assume I know little about the health industry is very wrong.

 

Re: If you like your Healthcare coverage, you can keep your Healthcare coverage! Peri

Single payer system, or go full social on health care.

 

Re: If you like your Healthcare coverage, you can keep your Healthcare coverage! Peri

because that's how it works in the UK, Canada, and pretty much everywhere else in the world?

 

Re: If you like your Healthcare coverage, you can keep your Healthcare coverage! Peri

Actually the cash part of that would be true in a social health care system to a degree. Medical workers still live very comfortable lives though. Your make it sound like a concentration camp job.

 

Re: If you like your Healthcare coverage, you can keep your Healthcare coverage! Peri

Our system now is fucking terrible. Its was quickly becoming a elitist system only affordable by the rich and corporate surfs. Its is also full of corruption, complications, denials, pre existing conditions, malpractice and reactive rather than proactive medicine.

I don't buy that research would halt if we cut that shit out of the system or reduced hundreds of billions of profits to tens of billions of profits for corrupt companies.

Social medicine doesn't mean death panels. Before Obamacare, insurance companies were the death panels making denials and even if you sold everything you owned it wouldn't be enough.

Our armies are in other countries to further our interests, don't kid yourself.

 

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/03/health-care-costs-_n_3998425.html

To many charts and not enough time to copy them here. Big one to take note of is that our government already pays more for health care than other countries with social medicine.