The older genetically will continually be out of touch and wont be able to see the talent in an genre they don't understand or respect. Not saying I like Cardi B, I don't. Shes basic. But for decades, the older generation shits on the music of the younger generation, and it repeats when they become old. It was like that with rock n roll, and now it's like that with hip hop.
Yeah, I always feel old when my wife's siblings make me listen to their "music" and I'm like what is this trash... I think for most people the music that formed their 10-25 year old(ish) brain is the music the like at least in style. Been into Orchestra music and instrumentals since I was little and I'd rather listen to that than anything.
I've always found that fascinating. People don't do that with other forms of entertainment. They may like older movies and TV shows but they will still watch and enjoy newer movies and shows. Same as books. But music is different. But then music can be used in treatment for brain injuries and memory loss. Music just stays with us differently.
I'm not going to get into it, to deep here as I know it will just cause arguments and you don't need any more of that. There are some really fascinating religious and psychological studies on music and how it shapes beliefs, world views, etc. That's where I got my 10-25ish-year-old brain stuff. Turns out what we listen to is one of the most important things we do with our brains.
what a crock of horseshit.....ageism? I think it's safe to say I probably know more about musical talent than all of the under 30 year old fans you can muster..respect...pass it on.....in the world of music I've actually worked with many, many genres...and written a book on musicology....if somebody is continually out of touch it has nothing to do with age or genetics it has to do with attention span..when Andre Segovia died he said he was just beginning to solve the puzzle of music......robots make soulless music in my view. Programming music with a computer is not musical talent...it's entering data that is automatically programmed with rigid parameters...you might get the rock but you'll never get the roll.....I listen to brand new music that's great often... GOOD new music by young people
Whenever I go down this path mentally I remind myself I listened to 2 Live Crew and Andrew Dice Clay when I was in Jr High.
in my view Sly, they absolutely do...lot of folks still just watch old movies..several of the elderly folks I cared for only watched old westerns or sports...nothing new at all. I think it's exactly the same as music. For dementia patients old photos of their youth or old music from back in the day could often calm panic attacks or episodes of confusion...give them something to grab onto
I dont know if its a competition on musical knowledge but I know a professor at Dartmouth who is an amazing violinist, but who also spends a lot of his time programming music. Many good programmers are musicians because its language, its conveying ideas and thoughts, almost all SW engineers have their style’s, it’s very technical in many ways buts also extremely creative. I think you’d be surprised at how close the skillsets are for a programmer and a musician. Edited: Spencer went to Julliard, then was a professor at Dartmouth, and now he spends most of his time helping concert halls with technology. Thought about it for a minute and wanted to get it right. Now in terms of AI generated “music” thats different.
I made a money selling 1 minute midi loops for PC games in Brazil in the 80s....I understand music programming via computer...and you don't have to have musical talent to program computer generated samples.talented musicians can program music as well but as I said...you don't need to play drums to push a button on a drum machine..it's like an author filling a book with Mark Twain quotes...I've used all that stuff, samplers, delays, drum machines etc... and still say it's a robot quantizing the beat and if it's not...it's a copy of an actual musician who played the sample...that's not the same to me. Synth string sections will just never be orchestras and drum machines will never replace Hal Blaine...listen to the drums on Alicia Keys first album then listen to Anita Bakers's first album....tell me the difference. To my ear it's not even close....Anita refuses to record music without real musicians....Alicia pushed the drum machine button...both are talented Pianists and vocalists.
I've got a lot to say on this topic, but I appreciate you as a poster and I recognize your passion for music. Music is very subjective though, just like books. It's subjective for the author and the audience. I didn't make the claim that computer generated music sounded the same as a musician though.
I have strong opinions about what computers have done to popular music so it was my take on the state of musicality..but listen to pop music and the world definitely disagrees with me. I'm just really happy that there are still organic bands making music with real people playing the notes. I believe musical interpretation on an instrument is tied to the nervous system and reflects things that can't be replicated by a quantize function. Listening to Switched on Bach is not even close to listening to any string quartet performance of Bach....I have recorded an entire CD of computer generated orchestral works....the information is there but sadly it'll never impress my ears and I spent a long, long time on it. After that long project I'd definitely hire an orchestra to perform the pieces if I did it again instead of "entering" the parts with a midi keyboard....Frank Zappa was really good with the Moog when he first got one...but in his book he talks about how the synth which cost as much as his house was a very expensive investment to get a sound you could get from a 5 dollar harmonica...hence 10million bucks worth of outboard gear can make 10 dollars worth of talent a superstar...see vocoder..
I enjoy reading folks takes on music....my views aren't for the purpose of argument concerning this...as a musician my argument was aimed at the stereotype that old people don't like new music...I tried to expound on that by linking a video of brand new music by young folks that I absolutely love and respect for it's musicality....I raised a son here who in Jr High was blasting Eminem and 50 cent in my cabin after school in the woods...let's just say I wasn't a fan of the lyrics or compositions and now that he's 27 and learned to play music, he now agrees with me. As a teen though he exposed me to his generations idea of a musical good time...I thought then and still now that it was angst filled garbage...Eminem's best song was a Led Zeppelin sample of Kashmir...
