Ike Diogu takes Adonal Foyle's starting Job!!!!

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kwan1031:</div><div class="quote_post">If you think Diogu blocked a lot of shots in college, Foyle averaged 3 times more than Diogu in college. And, in Diogu's early season, Foyle still blocks 3 times more than Diogu (3.06 to .99 in 48 mins scale). Also, by individual defense, Foyle is much better defender than Diogu. So, in terms of defense, this is clearly a downgrade. But, lately, Foyle hasn't been impacting defense for some reason, and if Foyle can't impact the defense, there really is no reason for us to put Foyle on the court. Let's see what Diogu can do as a center, and how Warriors can response to this shake up...</div>


Foyle played at Colgate, Ike at Arizona State, a little different competition.

 

Adonal is one of the top shot blockers in the league.. Not to say that Ike can't block a shot or 2 per game, but he most certainly will not keep forwards and centers from taking it at the hoop.

 

Ike and Biedrins together will be monsters. Both are good defenders and can rack up rebounds. Biedrins is a good shot-blocker so he could, replace Foyle's blocking skills. Man, in two-three years, we are going to be so good.

 

Beidrins is a good defender? Which guy are you watching? He consistently gets moved out of position which is why he fouls so much. The kid can't stay on the floor because he can't hold position.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mister Jennings:</div><div class="quote_post">Foyle played at Colgate, Ike at Arizona State, a little different competition.</div>

Whether Foyle played in weaker division or Diogu playing at Pac 10, 3 times is 3 times, and they faced college players.

Foyle in 3 years: 5.65 blk in 3 years, 6.43 blk in junior year
Diogu in 3 years: 1.68 blk in 3 years, 2.34 blk in junior year.

Also, in Diogu's short NBA career, he didn't prove that he is a shot blocker in NBA. In terms of 48 mins scale, Foyle blocks 3.06 with Diogu's .99, Pietrus blocks .72 and Zarko's .65. So, until now, Diogu didn't prove himself as a shot blocker. And, considering that Foyle usually had 4-6 blk in 48 mins scale in past years (and how we bash him for lack of his help defense with 3 blk in 48 mins scale), it's very unlikely that Diogu will come close to Foyle's block ability...

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Run BJM:</div><div class="quote_post">Biedrins is a pretty damn good defender. I rarely see him give up position in the post, which Adonal does alot for some reason. Anyway, I think Murphy is as good of an on-ball defender as Foyle.</div>

He gets bumped out of position and fouls to make up for it. Pay attention to it tonight, and every game from now on. Murphy's quite possibly the worst on ball defender in the league. It's hard to anchor the center of the court on defense when both wings are running free. It's a team game on Defense. Just be prepared to see the opposing team FG% leaps and bounds ahead of the league average. In all honesty, replacing Dunleavy for Pietrus, or Ike for Murphy is the better decision for team basketball.

 

Foyle can play D,block shots. He can't get 'em all,and if he's too aggressive-it's fouls. Biedrens is quick on his feet and works on D,but is almost 20lb lighter than Ike,30lb lighter than Foyle. Ike is a decent size PF,short for C,but the reality is that Murphy (6-11) will share the role with matchups as they best fit. Ike is not awkward,slow,or a lightweight and he can use that. Opponents won't get to slack off anyone. Note Dunleavy took my advice-skipped the 3's,shot the midrange J...scored over 20 with a respectable % too.
Ideally Baron will push the pace and not go 3 happy. Ideally Murphy will get back to the paint so we are not counting on J Rich to get 10+ boards. Monty is not the problem. Monty does not tell Baron to chuck up a contested 3,or tell Adonal to miss a 3 footer,or tell Pietrus to get injured or Biedrens to foul.
What "perfect coach" are we going to get..Red Auerbach? John Wooden? Most available coaches are available bcause they didn't get the job done somewhere.

 

If anything else Diogu brings a fresh look that other teams are not prepared for. There isn't enough film or scouting on Ike to really let the opposition know his tendencies. Ike also is younger, has better foot movement and more motivation than Foyle. Until Pietrus comes back we do not have many choices in bringing players off the bench to start. Plus while Diogu might not be a great defender he at least can be a better low post presence than Biedrens who is taller but, weights less.

 

Just watching Foyle in the third quarter of the Celtics game and he looks like he has something to prove and the best part, the team is totally rooting for him. Good to see, but I still like Ike starting.

 

Yeah, definately nice having a 5 score early. Then Foyle comes in and makes the defensive stops in crunch time. Having Foyle come off the bench helped make a difference, hopefully Mike doesn't go "ooo, Foyle had a good game. Lets put him back in the starting lineup." If the lineup worked, keep it that way.