Now I’ve said my piece on here and beings my thread got shut down and merged with another thread I will bow out and go back to Basketball only. See ya.
Bullshit!!!! You do not get to make false claims. Kjirornman never defined anyones gender. His point was, people born as a male should not compete in female only sprorts. There are many reasons this is unfair for female sporting events. But this behavior has also resulted in creepy situations in lockerrooms. BTW, gender is assigned at conception. Why do you keep ignoring science?
Actually, the science says there are people born with two genders. Intersex is a term used to describe people who are born with reproductive or sexual anatomy that doesn't fit the male/female binary. It's also known as hermaphroditism and is a naturally occurring variation in humans. Intersex is a disorder of sex development (DSD) that's estimated to affect 1–2% of the population.
Here is a good article about the benefits of playing high school sports. Sometimes we forget why sports are important and should be accessible to all kids. 10 Benefits of Playing High School Sports Participating in high school athletics can provide students with lifelong skills, lessons, relationships, and benefits. 1) Physical Fitness Staying physically active is important, especially for a growing body. Cardiovascular and strength training from sports like soccer, football, or basketball helps students nurture their minds and bodies. Developing the habit of training early on helps encourage a lifelong active lifestyle. Many people who play high school sports remain physically active throughout adulthood. 2) Improved Academic Performance Playing sports helps some students stay focused and perform better in the classroom. There are two main aspects to how playing a sport influences academic performance. The first is straightforward: there are minimum grade requirements to participate in school sports. The second has to do with brain performance. For some students, learning game strategies and memorizing plays helps with logic in the classroom. For others, academic improvement is sparked by the positive influence of a coach or mentor. Positive peer influence and healthy classroom competition can result in higher academic achievement. 3) Social Relationships Mix the ups and downs of competition with a group of committed, like-minded people over a period of many months, and you’ll end up with deep teammate relationships. A healthy team pushes one another to succeed and grow. Students experience times of frustration, forgiveness, and camaraderie during games and practices. Coaches foster a healthy and safe environment for these relationships to develop. 4) Facing Adversity Life isn’t easy. Life isn’t fair. These idioms may be overused, but they are still true. High school sports are a sure-fire way to learn these hard truths. Any high school athlete will tell you that during their time on a team, they’ve had to work hard, be disciplined, show up when they didn’t want to, and stop making excuses. Forming these habits now pays dividends in life after high school. 5) Teamwork & Cooperation Skills like teamwork and cooperation are important at every stage of life. From the playground to the sports field, and then on into business meetings, getting along and working with others to accomplish a goal is key to smooth working relationships. High school sports - both team and individual - teach players these important life skills. 6) Positive Mentors Coaches are often lifelong players and supporters of their sports. They love what they do and truly care about the students they mentor. Many times, students and coaches stay connected throughout their lives. Other times, it’s a lesson learned or a moment on the field remembered. High school sports provide a great place for positive mentorship. At LuHi, coaches at every level want to develop Christian character in their players and model a Christ-like attitude. LuHi student-athletes receive guidance from their coaches from a biblical worldview. 7) Leadership Skills On the court or the field, student-athletes must make decisions and act as leaders. Calling plays, reacting quickly, and working toward a common goal are all ways leadership is important during the game or match. Off the field, student-athletes are leaders within the school as well. They represent a collective school spirit and demonstrate honor and dedication to the school while their peers cheer them on. Athletes learn how to lead by example, lead through good sportsmanship, and lead in their actions. 8) Time Management High school athletes juggle school, homework, practice, family, faith, projects, training, and games. It’s a lot to keep track of. The experience of managing it in high school helps students better manage time throughout their lives. Participating in sports teaches students the importance of keeping appointments, allowing for prep and travel time, and learning time management habits. 9) Community Representation Part of the high school sports experience is being part of a larger community and providing role modeling for others. Student-athletes are responsible for representing Lutheran High School, Christ, and our community. It’s an incredible opportunity to be part of something that inspires others. Learning about community participation and representation in high school builds connectivity for life. 10) Success Mindset Finally, high school sports help players develop a success mindset that can serve them throughout college and their careers. Sports teach students how to define success, set short and long-term goals, and take responsibility. Having a drive to win - both personally and for the team - pushes students to be persistent in achieving their goals. These traits are valued in every career and industry. https://www.lhsparker.org/blog/9-benefits-of-playing-high-school-sports
And sandbagging in general tends to overshadow all of this and is incredibly counterproductive in almost every way.
Excuse me, but the post said the individual is maybe a trans boy but not a trans girl. That sure sounds like defining gender. I am not the one ignoring science. Genetic sex and gender don't always align. They aren't the same thing. And not everyone is XX or XY btw. You want to segregate trans kids away from cis athletes? What resources would they have? Do you do genital checks or DNA tests to figure out who gets segregated? Why not a scarlet letter since you are so determined to stigmatize? And when was the last time you actually spoke to any trans person?
I work with one every day. Great Ironworker and one of the most upstanding individuals you will ever meet. They agree with me wholeheartedly. This kid should in no way be competing against girls.
I am trying to figure out how to Ignore a thread? The notifications keep coming up in my comment box. Edit- Alerts
I'm completely supportive of any humun's right to identify as they choose and live with their choices...there are a few areas I do not support...competitive sports is one...not only with transgendered athletes but in some cases with men vs women period. I do not ever want to see women and men boxing or cage fighting period. Call me old fashioned but not homophonbic or transphobic.....as a straight male I also have the right to define the world around me according to my own observations. When I'm mistaken I'll admit it. I know many transgendered professionals and people. ....all of them I know were biological males who transitioned to female identities...some very well, some not so well. I don't want to see them punching women or running in the olympics against them. If that's a flaw on my part, it's not going to change unless I pretend to accept it for the sake of political correctness and I don't feel the need to do that.
When was the last time you talked with a biological female athlete about competing against trans athletes who are taking hormones/steroids?et... to transition? My granddaughter is on a softball scholarship and she has concerns about it. I understand her concerns as I have the same ones. Neither of our concerns has anything to do with sexual identity but biological advantages/disadvantages.
Do you mean alerts for people responding to your posts, or alerts for the thread itself? There should be a way to unfollow a thread, tho I don't know it off the top of my head, but you can just ignore the original author of the post (in this case, you could ignore ABM), tho I'm not sure if that blocks you from seeing the thread. I'll look into it and get back to this (unless someone else beats me to it) edit: there is a 'watch this thread' option at the top of the posts, you could try clicking on that and changing it to not getting notifications, iirc.
If the typical physical exam cannot accurately determine classification and anything else would be too invasive (and I agree, with how much less invasive physical exams have become, it would be) then biological sex given by doctors at birth is the only fair way to do it. That is a medical document unrelated to sports and no excessive testing or prodding would be needed. This would correctly classify 99.98% of all children. And ambiguity occurs equally among boys and girls, so only 0.01% of potential female athletes would be negatively impacted. This seems like the most fair option by far, and the best for women's sports. It seems any other avenue would eventually lead to what we've seen in canadian women's powerlifting or at the other extreme invasive testing that nobody wants people to be subjected to.
The NIH link says 1 in 5000 (0.02%) infants have Ambiguous Genitalia. So half of those could be girls. So really it would put 99.99% in the accurate division based on that criteria.
I don't know this for sure but I would venture to guess that if you talked to a transgender person they would tell you that there is more to their decision to transition than genitalia.
Sports classifications shouldn't consider an individual person's decisions. There is no way to do so effectively. Assignment at birth is the most fair, accurate, consistent, and least invasive way to determine who should be allowed to compete in women's only divisions. If somebody can propose something else that is less invasive and more than 99.99% accurate I'd probably support that instead.
