OT "I'm Dealing With A Few Transgender Issues"

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  1. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Thank you for pointing these things out, brother. Pretty bizarro for sure.
     
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    nobody else will because they would rather defend like minded political minds then actually stand up for what is right Nd wrong.

    The biggest wrong of all and what almost always turns people aggressive is to deny another person the right to discuss a topic.


    Its only natural to want to fight back with fists if someone is going to tape my mouth shut.
     
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    I can and have given ABM the long thoughtout response he claims to want and it goes nowhere. There is no meaningful discussion. It's really a waste of time.

    His scenario is purposely vague.

    In this thread I posted articles about something similar, including a fascinating one where an infant's penis was destroyed in an accident so they surgically made him a girl. But even as a little kid they knew they weren't. Played with "traditional" boys toys. Didn't like wearing dresses, etc.

    So, if the hypothetical boy in ABM's scenario just suddenly says they want to be a girl I would not put a lot of weight to it, I would still discuss it with them, but if there were no other signs, there isn't a lot, IMO, to do.

    No, if the boy likes wearing girl's clothes, playing with girl's toys, then it's time for the parents to talk with a professional, and then talk with the kid.

    But again, I've suggested just talking with a person, whether they are black, or gay, or trans, or whatever, just talking with them open and honestly and ABM in other threads and other subjects rejects that. So really, there isn't much to discuss with him on this.
     
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    but you are another male. I don't presume to answer for him, but me personally would put alot more depth into what she says than what you say. Its her who is so outspoken about all the hatred Nd suppression she or people like her receive so to me, it would be her input i want. Not yours.
    With thst said. I have not had that same long history but have also been quickly cut off from being able to discuss certain topics just because im a male. I have also been unjustly labeled a misogynist and told to fuck off for just wanting to have a conversation. But have also witnessed Crandc complain Bout how she was railed on for just asking questions.
    There is a hypocrisy here and its bright as day if one just puts on some impartial glasses.

    so there may be some history im unaware of but, history is just history. And your conversation goings with ABM doesn't mean they are the same with others as for reasons i eluded to above.
     
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    Bullcrap. I've been effectively called a gay and trans hater on posts that you have liked. I've simply asked that you, or anyone else for that matter, cite any post(s) I've made in that regard and I'd address each and every one. Frankly, there are none.
     
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    @ABM

    I know I have tried to have conversations with you and we have had some and we have come to understandings even if we disagree. But, often you have been vague in your responses. You have the tendency to quote a single line from a post and offer a dubious reply that doesn't really offer any tangible feedback or further the conversation...it becomes dead ended.

    People are only going attempt to have a conversation so many times before they conclude that one is not desired.
     
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    It's one thing to have a conversation. Even a so-called vague one, Chris. It's yet another thing altogether to be labeled a racist and a gay/trans hater. You're a smart guy. You know that.
     
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    I don't know about you, but I don't need my privacy although at times it would be nice. When I was working out in a gym, there were no women on weekends so fathers would bring their 10, 11 and 12 year old daughters in the men's locker room to shower. I felt very sorry f0r the girls because they obviously did not like showering naked with me. To me, that was terrible and if they had just waited I would have been out of there and they could have have had the lockerroom, shower and all completely to themselves and nobody would have been uncomfortable.
     
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    Idaho now considering a bill that would imprison doctors who provide health care to transgender youth. Also a bill that would jail librarians if library contains books on LGBTQ issues written for young people.
    Patrick Robertson, who blamed the 9/11 attacks on gays and legal abortion, came out of retirement to praise Russian invasion of Ukraine because Russia is a godly nation that persecutes gay and trans and gender nonconforming people.
     
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    Not baiting in any matter whatsoever. These are things that appear to be relative in today's society. Let me ask a different way: What if you had, say, a third grade daughter and she came home from school one day and told you that her teacher had been discussing various aspects of transgenderism, which caused her to really question who she was. Then, she goes on to tell you, "Mommy, I think I'm a little boy trapped in a little girl's body." What is the appropriate parental discussion around all of that? Moreover, is it any of the school's business to be involved in these matters at that age?
     
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    Yup. It is a slippery slope from religious fanatics to fascism.

    Can you imagine what kind of a monster you have to be to take your young ones to church where they can associate with people of that nature? What kind of parents will do that? We should pass a law to keep religious zealots out of shared toilets.
     
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    I came from a family that did not hesitate to answer tough questions and never forbade knowledge. It is entirely possible to talk about trans issues in age appropriate fashion. As I said earlier, I was well aware by age 7 I was a girl and others like my father were not girls. Trans people have same awareness. Not the same as chafing about gender roles or the fact that girls often think boys have it easier while boys sometimes think girls do.
    States like Florida and copycats are making these conversations a crime.
     
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    Maybe if you become more willing to have conversations, and not be so passive in that respect, you might find some of those labels fall away.

    When you are against certain things, when you support certain people there are labels that come with that.
     
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    Hmmm..I thought in Florida they're just wanting these types of discussions left out of the schools pre thru 3rd grade as to totally be left in the hands of the parents?
     
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    Try to keep up. :)

    Despite the various (incredibly wrong) labels against me, I had begun asking more questions. They're all legitimate ones in my estimation.
     
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    Trying to pretend LGBTQ people don't exist, will not stop them from existing.
     
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    Though, being called a racist, gay and/or trans hater is way over the top. And, quite frankly, ugly. As a moderator, you of all people should know that. I've said NOTHING that would warrant those ugly labels. Nothing.
     
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    I keep up just fine.

    You don't offer a clear idea of where you stand on LGBTQ. You offer vague links to controversial articles that lead people to build their own picture.

    You say your religion tells you that you have to see being gay or queer as wrong, but are not for laws against it, but then are for some of the laws, but aren't, but are for the politicians who are for the laws, but aren't, but are.

    This is some of the vagueness I'm talking about. Don't be obscure.

    Clarify your stance man.
     
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