OT "I'm Dealing With A Few Transgender Issues"

Stop taking things so personally. Her posts are generalized aimed yes mostly at men. White straight men who are ignorant of the value of women's and LGBTQ rights and who are for laws to oppress them. Does that describe you? If not, don't take it personally.

 

You are entitled to your opinion. You are able to post it and have it. Believe in what you believe in. Ignore her posts if you can't agree to disagree with them. Stop taking it personally.

Sure, it does. I'm a white straight male. I'm not taking it personally.

Your opinions are only controlled or limited by her if you allow them to be.

 

"Straight cis men proclaiming themselves, at great length, experts on a subject they know nothing about."

Is that gatekeeping?

I personally know shit about the transgender. You just asked questions that I admit I had to google the answer.

Last night I was going to say I very much doubt that a straight male would take female hormones just to compete and win as a woman. And before I hit send I realized that I actually don't know if all transgender people take hormones. So instead of making a claim or statement I know shit about I said nothing.

I bet @crandc knows the answer to this.

Maybe you do too.

Me, I don't. I don't much about this.

In my case, on the subject of the transgender, Crandc's statement is pretty accurate. If you know some about this I think that is great!

 

That's all fine and well. You don't appreciate how you percieve she conducts herself ok. You can do that and not take it personally.

If you have nothing to prove, don't try and prove it.

 

480,000 student athletes each year in the US. One transgendered person has won a championship in one event.

If classes of athletes is a concern I would say we should be focusing on when the Ducks, Ohio State, 'Bama, etc. plays Eastern Podunk College in football every season. Now that is a different class of athlete that can result in serious injury. That happens many more times a year then what we're talking about.

 

No you haven't. But, why use mockery or sarcasm? What does it achieve?

 

Help me out with your concern/position on this...

Do you think transgender athletes should not be allowed to participate in athletics at all?

Or only allowed to compete under the gender they were born as?

Or not allowed to win?

 

Board of Governors updates transgender participation policy

The NCAA Board of Governors on Wednesday voted in support of a sport-by-sport approach to transgender participation that preserves opportunity for transgender student-athletes while balancing fairness, inclusion and safety for all who compete. The new policy, effective immediately, aligns transgender student-athlete participation for college sports with recent policy changes (PDF) from the United States Olympic and Paralympic Committee and International Olympic Committee.

Like the Olympics, the updated NCAA policy calls for transgender participation for each sport to be determined by the policy for the national governing body of that sport, subject to ongoing review and recommendation by the NCAA Committee on Competitive Safeguards and Medical Aspects of Sports to the Board of Governors. If there is no NGB policy for a sport, that sport's international federation policy would be followed. If there is no international federation policy, previously established IOC policy criteria would be followed.

The Board of Governors urged the divisions to provide flexibility to allow for additional eligibility if a transgender student-athlete loses eligibility based on the policy change provided they meet the newly adopted standards.

The policy is effective starting with the 2022 winter championships. Transgender student-athletes will need to document sport-specific testosterone levels beginning four weeks before their sport's championship selections. Starting with the 2022-23 academic year, transgender student-athletes will need documented levels at the beginning of their season and a second documentation six months after the first. They will also need documented testosterone levels four weeks before championship selections. Full implementation would begin with the 2023-24 academic year.

"We are steadfast in our support of transgender student-athletes and the fostering of fairness across college sports," said John DeGioia, chair of the board and Georgetown president. "It is important that NCAA member schools, conferences and college athletes compete in an inclusive, fair, safe and respectful environment and can move forward with a clear understanding of the new policy."

"Approximately 80% of U.S. Olympians are either current or former college athletes," said Mark Emmert, NCAA president. "This policy alignment provides consistency and further strengthens the relationship between college sports and the U.S. Olympics."

Additionally, the NCAA's Office of Inclusion and the Sport Science Institute released the Gender Identity and Student-Athlete Participation Summit Final Report (PDF). The report assists ongoing membership efforts to support inclusion, fairness, and the mental and physical health of transgender and non-binary student-athletes in collegiate sport.

The Board of Governors met Wednesday in Indianapolis as part of the 2022 NCAA Convention. For more on key topics from the 2022 NCAA Convention, visit ncaa.org/convention.
https://www.ncaa.org/news/2022/1/19...updates-transgender-participation-policy.aspx

 

I get what he is saying in that the women who lose to a transgendered athlete don't feel it's fair. That's understandable.

To say no one cares is a bit dramatic.

There is a dilemma here whether anyone likes it or not.

Questions are coming up in regards to advantage and fairness. That's valid.

But, we have to find some way to rectify the concerns of these women athletes with the position trans athletes find themselves in.

Of course trans athletes should be able to compete and win.