OT "I'm Dealing With A Few Transgender Issues"

All I can say is if in some hypothetical world where the roles were reversed - men were losing to trans men, all hell would break loose. You think if women showed up and broke records or had 34 sacks a season vs the Ducks it would be tolerated for one second? Nope.

 

You have to admit they are at least trying to listen.
I can appreciate that they are addressing the issue.
Now as far as right or wrong goes I have to admit I simply don’t have the answers here.
I am however a little bit more educated on the subject than I was before.
Thanks to a number of posts here and some personal research on the issue.
I still feel he/she should probably not be competing in an individual sport such as swimming. Now team sports might be another issue but still he/she would have some advantages in team sports.
Take basketball for instance. He probably can’t sniff the court as a man but would most likely be a force on a woman’s team.

Yes I understand I am allowed to have this opinion and anyone else is allowed to disagree.
If you happen to disagree and would like to discuss it then you are more than welcome to tag me and my statement and discuss but please avoid the vague passive aggressive post that points out but doesn’t actually call me out. I’m an adult. I can discuss and I have differing views with people.

 

And that in its own weird way is another slight on women in sports.

 

You see I could actually see this happening pretty easily with weight classes and the knowledge that wrestling is just as much about speed and perseverance as it is about brute strength.

 

Awesome. Great story.

 

Except that women naturally have 15-20% more body fat than men, so they are wrestling 1 or 2 weight classes above where they should be against stronger men.

 

Me, too.

 

Wrestlers are usually around 3-5% body fat and in some cases less. 15-20% of 4% is less than 1% so no not really. When you are talking about the 106, 113 or 120 weight classes it simply isn't going to make that much difference. Even less if you go to 126, 132 or 138. Water retention is a bigger deal. That is why i said "I could actually see this happening".

Edit- Mack Beggs wrestled at 110 lbs.

 

Sounds like a lot more than a few issues.

 

My favorite part of this issue is how the governing bodies are scared shitless of blowback if they change up any of the rules so they just keep handing the bag to some other entity, hoping they are the ones to get blood on their hands. The NCAA basically said, we'll do whatever USA Swimming does. No one wants to be the bad guy here and tell the transgender women that they can't compete against the men. Yes so far it's only been this one swimmer and a runner in Connecticut that has made major headlines, but feels like only the start. I'm still not sure where I stand but lean towards those born as women and stay as women are the only ones that get to compete as women and everyone else needs to compete as men.

 

What weight ?

 

Solid points. And Mack had procedures to mitigate much of that.

Still, as a former high school wrestler I'm telling you. 1lb can definitely be a big deal when trying to make weight.

 

Agreed.

 

Is anyone doing this? Frankly I wouldn't care. I have played against women before in basketball and I don't see why it would matter if it's a trans man. If they're good at the sport, they're good at the sport.

 

There will not be blowback from men. Any man who complains will look like a childish bigot and that will be the end of it.

I don't care about their gender or sex, I care about the built in advantages a person who is born male has over a person who is born female. Even after complete transition, studies show they are 10% faster and stronger than other women. That's a huge difference. Like PEDs huge.