OT "I'm Dealing With A Few Transgender Issues"

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    You aren't expected to compete against the likes of LeBron though. That's a completely different league, so it all works out exactly as it should.
     
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    And yet cis women are still beating them the majority of the time.
     
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    It's out there. You will mostly hear that they don't want transgender athletes to end up getting hurt. (That's the risk transgender athletes take if they want to compete). But, the real issue is they are afraid of getting beat by someone who was born with lady parts.
     
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    The cis women are incredible athletes, no doubt about it. But they shouldn't have to worry about beating a trans female any more than they should have to worry about beating a player on PEDs. And it's a much simpler problem to solve.
     
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    And I have no sympathy for these people. If you're afraid to lose to a girl you should train harder. If you can't train harder you should drop a level or retire. I think this is how most people feel.

    And a trans male who could actually compete and win at this level would be an absolute hero, rightly so.
     
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    I really hate the term "cis."

    It does not sound complimentary at all.
     
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    Agreed. Much prefer "Bro", or maybe "Bruh".
     
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    Why does there have to be a cis?
    Isnt it just the sex at birth indicator?
     
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    Yeah, seems like the default would just be male or female. Man or woman. And you'd add anything extra to how you refer to yourself if you want.
     
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    Cis isn't an insult, just like trans isn't an insult.

    Maybe you're just feeling weird about being put in a group when you know you're an individual, and don't like being categorized by some arbitrary aspect of your existence that isn't even that important until some other person you don't even know that well makes it important without asking you.
     
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    Assigned male/female at birth is not only more cumbersome than cis but also less specific since it applies to trans people as well. Cis is actually derived from a chemical term. Cis and trans. Had chem 101?
     
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    Thanks, first time I heard that. Chem in hs 53 years ago. Not sure why more cumbersome though?
    If a person is trans why cant Trans male or female work?
     
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    Cis denotes that one is the same gender now they were at birth. Not sex. There seems to be alot of confusing sex and gender when it comes to transgender people and generally perhaps.

    A person can be born a male (with male genetalia) or a female (female genetalia) but not have a gender that matches that, which might not be discovered till later. Hence transgender people, who are born a different sex than gender.

    I'm not sure why the word cis seems to make some of you feel so uncomfortable.

    A cis person is not transgender. There are trans women, people born with male anatomy, but female gender. Trans men are people born with female anatomy but male genders. They both can undergo surgeries and hormone therapies so that their sex and gender match(transexual).
     
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    Seems overly complicated. It seems like male and female should suffice, and if a person has another preference they should feel free to use it.
     
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    It's not at all. There needs to be differentiation when speaking of trans and non trans people. Cis is a very easy prefix to provide that. Using just female and male doesn't always work because transgendered people are male and female too.
     
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    Why cant they use trans when they determine they are? Most know what trans means now days.
     
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    They do
     
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    I think people are trying to be understanding and respectful, not all thats for sure, but progress is being made.
     
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    Yeah, makes sense.
     
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    Why does it have to be this "All or Nothing" situation though? Yes it's come up because a few trans women have won events but it could become an issue down the road as I think you're underestimating what people will do to win. I don't think we should be running out and pushing laws in an attempt to stop this 'national crisis' as some politicians are doing, but I also don't think we should be burying our heads in the sand and dismissing it altogether like your post is implying. As with everything in life (but not on the internet) there can be a happy medium there!
     
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