It's a beautiful sentiment but I'm not sure all actions against accepting refugees are based in fear, they may simply be pragmatic. I have no fear for myself because of where I live, but I still don't want to put other Americans at risk. I also don't want to begin a cascade in America of terrorism kicked off by one or two refugees whose disdain for west begins a plight of "bedroom jihadism" like now exists in Brussels. communities form for good and bad and it only takes one or two extremist youths to corrupt their friends and eventually create a cell.
The next time I'm truly afraid of something will be the first time since I hit puberty. Being cautious is different. I pull vehicles on a frame rack using chains and hydraulic rams. I have put 7 tons of pressure on a chain with this machine. If the chain were to break it could kill someone in it's path. The other day I was doing this while our mechanic was near. I yelled at him to stay out of the way of the machine. He told me "you can't be scared all of your life" I wasn't scared, I am educated to what can happen and have seen people hurt by it before. So the memes are bullshit. More people are scared of being labeled a racist or a pussy about this than anything. Soooo, sorry. Help them, that doesn't mean bring them here. I guess I am an asshole. Just not afraid.
On the other hand, loving ones neighbor and bringing them into your society may be what's needed long term to help convince the larger Muslim community that we are worth fighting with and not against. That we protect the innocent and that is a better cause than jihadism.
The terrorists who carried out the Paris attacks were homegrown. Now I'm not saying that you can screen all bad actors, but I wonder if our current Muslim population wouldn't be even more prone to to radicalization with wanton disregard for Syrian lives. And let's face it, ISIS is a problem we helped create with our bumbling around in Iraq for the past decade+. I've always been a "you break it, you buy it" kind of guy.
That is, of course, the muslims in this country are actually sympathetic to core american values. http://nypost.com/2014/09/07/jihadi-behind-beheading-videos-linked-to-notorious-us-mosque/ When it was revealed that the Boston Marathon bombers attended a Cambridge, Mass., mosque, its leaders were quick to disavow their actions. Elder brother Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s ideology was not their own, the leaders of the Islamic Society mosque claimed. In fact, he was admonished for an extremist outburst he made during one sermon. So, one crackpot in a congregation. Who can blame the mosque? But what about eight — including a prominent member of ISIS? As it turns out, worshippers at the Islamic Society have included: Abdurahman Alamoudi, the mosque’s founder and first president, who in 2004 was sentenced to 23 years in prison for plotting terrorism. In 2005, the Treasury Department issued a statement saying Alamoudi raised money for al Qaeda in the US. Aafia Siddiqui, an MIT scientist-turned-al Qaeda agent, who in 2010 was sentenced to 86 years in prison for planning a New York chemical attack. Known as “Lady al Qaeda,” she is related to 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed. ISIS has tried to trade her release for journalist hostages. Tarek Mehanna, who in 2012 got 17 years in prison for conspiring to use automatic weapons to murder shoppers in a suburban Boston mall. Yusuf al-Qaradawi, a mosque trustee and Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood leader banned from the US after issuing a fatwa that called for the killing of US soldiers. Jamal Badawi, another former trustee who in 2007 was named an unindicted co-conspirator in a plan to funnel more than $12 million to Palestinian suicide bombers. Now it can be revealed that another regular worshipper at the Islamic Society mosque was Ahmad Abousamra, who is now the top propagandist for ISIS. Modal Trigger Aafia Siddiqui Dr. Abousamra, now chief of endocrinology at Wayne State University in Detroit, did not return emails and phone calls seeking comment. As for the Islamic Society, it insists it isn’t preaching hate. But how many terrorists does it take before people are convinced it isn’t a coincidence? Paul Sperry is a Hoover Institution media fellow and author of “Infiltration: How Muslim Spies and Subversives Have Penetrated Washington.”
But many of them were shown to have links to that community in Brussels. And it's those tight communities that can be radicalized. Take a look at the brothers who pulled off the Boston Bombing. They were refugees as little kids who became radicalized mostly here. Bringing over the Syrian refugees includes a risk that even if we are able to perfectly screen candidates that those refugees down the road will be radicalized. Remember, many of them will continue to identify more with people from their homeland than the Americans that bring them in. They might. It could work either way. They could be pissed we didn't help, or someone we help could plant a seed. I really don't know. It was already cracked, we just knocked it over. And history has shown that continuing to medal and try and correct or fix issues we created often continues to cause more problems. I'm not sure which this would actually fall into. If we try and fix things then we are continuing to interfere and that is where a lot of disdain also comes from.
The gumball analogy is a poor one, but, it's making the rounds on Facebook, so I guess I'll just have to get used to seeing it repeated. But let's say for every 10k guns manufactured in the country, 10 are going to be used illegally to murder innocent people. By your same thinking with refugees, it's worth it to get rid of guns to protect innocent lives, no?
No. I feel secure in living in an out of way place also. But is hurts to see my Countryman slaughtered anywhere.
Very well said sir! It pisses me off to hear the President chiding us about fearing 3 year old and widows! He is the stupid asshole, not you.
spot on and to those that go around espousing the same brainless drivel..be aware that you may get what you deserve
It's a complex situation at least we are going to be screening the refugees coming in. I don't agree with bringing them in though.
I told him "good point" as in, that makes sense. And I also agree that we should not have any gun control because his statement should be held to the same standard. Obviously, you are too dense to see that.
